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0:00:29Commissioners. Are you ready? Yes, we are. Thank you so much. And we are recording. We are here this morning for meeting of the board of County Commissioners in Boulder county today's. Tuesday, October 7, 2025, and all three commissioners are present for our board meeting. We are at the county courthouse in downtown Boulder at 1325 Pearl street. I'm going to go. Ahead and call our meeting to order and move us through number. Two down to number three, which is our business meeting. And then number four, items to note for the record. And we've got an item for a commissioner's office designation from Henry. Berman, who served as a community representative on the adult protection review team. And then item four b which is commissioner's office resignation. From Austin Everett, who served as the town of Superior representative on the resource Conservation advisory board and we thank those folks for their service. We'll move to item number five, which is commissioner's. Consent items move approval of five a through f. Second, but I just am trying to pull one thing up to ensure that the emergency services tax is what's being charged for the geothermal boreholes, and my escrib is. Not pulling up, so I just need one moment before I can vote. Or someone else can tell me that that is correct. Is your question, commissioner

0:01:54solvement your question about fund 151 Natalie Springt, commissioner's deputy for the record, it does appear that item 5D, which is the Colorado geothermal drilling, is coming from the emergency services. Sales and new stacks. Thank you. So it sounded like there was a second. As long as that was confirmed, it sounds like it. Was confirmed for you. Okay, so there was a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. And then that'll move us to item number six, which is commissioner's discussion. Items, six a's. Commissioner's office. Appointment to the El Dorado Springs local Improvement. District. Good morning, madam Chair. Commissioners. Robin Valdez with the commissioner's office. We have one vacancy. And from the time. I submitted that paperwork to now. We now have two more vacancies. So this new applicant. Is Heidi Gersten, and she's applying for a member at large. She's a biologist by trade and. Has been resident of the El Dorada Springs. Community for the last 21 years. For your consideration.

0:03:16And this also will assure that we have quorum for that board. Thank you, Robin. Any questions, commissioners? Not on this applicant, but just in general. Are we going to have trouble filling those other two seats? There's only so many people. In El Dorado Springs. We're going to run out of people. So I think my strategy is that. I'm just going to. Leave the two positions open because. They have not been quite yet. And we'll go forward. With the vacancies. I've been working with the board liaison, who's been. Very active in the community and trying to get people interested. In submitting an application. That's how we. Got this applicant. So we'll continue those efforts. Okay, thanks. There's no additional questions. Do we have a motion on item six a? I move that we appoint Heidi Gerstang.

0:04:19To the El Dorado Springs lid. Second advisory committee. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. And that'll take us to item number seven. Good morning, commissioner. Is Natalie Springer commissioner's? Deputy I'm here to confirm that the executive session, topics that were noticed at the September 30, 2025. Regular business meeting of the board were discussed as scheduled. With the exception of the session for the annual performance evaluation of. County Administrator Janet Peterson, which is scheduled for tomorrow, October 8, 2025, at 09:00 a.m. and this is just a note for the record, so I'm happy to. Take us into item eight. Thank you, commissioners. I'll be requesting three different approvals of. Executive sessions this morning. So if you'll bear with me for three different votes, I believe. I request authorization for the board of county commissioners to go into executive session on Wednesday, October 8. 2025 with County Attorney Ben Perlman pursuant to CRS 24, six, four, two subsection four e instructions to negotiators to discuss the collective bargaining agreement with the Boulder county employees. So moved. Second.

0:05:33All in favor? Aye. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners. I also request authorization for the. Board of county commissioners to go into executive. union Sorry. We've got some sound there in the back to go into executive session on Wednesday, October. 8, 2025, at 01:00 p.m. with county Attorney Ben Pearlman. Pursuant to CRS 24 6402, subsection four B, to discuss open records issues related to the sale of Boulder County's North Broadway. Complex at Broadway and Iris so moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. In opposition. No. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners. And then I request authorization for the board of county commissioners to go. Into executive session on Wednesday, October 8, 2025 at 01:00 p.m. with county attorney Ben Pearlman, pursuant to CRS 24, six, four, two, subsection four, a real property issues to discuss Boulder County's North Broadway. complex at broadway and iris so moved second all in favor aye aye thank you thank you commissioners and those were all the authorizations i request this week thank you that'll take us to item number nine which is a public meeting on department and office request and this is pertaining the 2026 boulder county And so we don't have a public hearing. Budget. We're just hearing information, so there's no decisions being requested by the board and. I'll go ahead and turn it over to our office of

0:07:08financial Management. Good morning, commissioners. Jillian Dietrich, budget manager with the Office of Financial Management. We're here today for the next step in our budget process. You've heard from the Office of Financial Management on September 30. About. Our recommended budget. And we're here to hear some additional requests from departments for 2026. Funding. We're going to start things off this morning with Susan Caskey presenting on some additional requests from Human services department. May I just ask a question for process, madam Commissioner, before we get started. So I heard you. Saying we wouldn't be making any decisions today. I completely respect and understand. We won't. Be making our final budget decisions until. The budget adoption later this year. But just. Are we. Making. Are we indicating our preferences today? Are we just listening today? I just am trying to understand if we're going to go through all of this and then go through it all again and then go through it all again. I'm just trying to understand.

0:08:12Commissioner Salzman, are you asking the board for discussion about how to use this time, or are you asking the presenters to clarify what you can obviously change the plan if we want to do. Something differently than what staff proposes, but I just wanted to understand what they were hoping we would. Do today? I was asking the staff. Thank you. Thanks. Yeah. Today is intended to be informational. Only so you'll hear from each. Department. That's planned to present today. Ask questions. And we will come back on November. 6th to actually walk through. And consider and make decisions about each of these requests. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Good morning, commissioner. Susan Caskey, human services director. Good to see you all today. Are you sharing your slides? Thank you. Thanks, Jill. Before I share the request, I'd like to provide a brief overview of the 2025 human services reductions. In 2025, human services reduced 7.1 million in expenditures.

0:09:12This includes 27 FTE and 4.3 million in operating expenses, 1.8 million of that operating expense was rent that the county is now covering. Thank you commissioners for that. The specific programs were reduced or cut were the Colorado Childcare Assistance program. This was a reduction in staff to address limited funding and the enrollment freeze. The child welfare foster care program. Was cut as well because of very low numbers of children and youth and out of home placement. We made the decision to cut our internal program and increase our use of child placing agencies. State guidance for the high fidelity wraparound program resulted in the program being moved. To a community partner. And finally, because of low utilization and a lack of sustainable funding, the parents'teachers program was cut, and I'm happy to report that. A community partner is working to offer this service to the community.

0:10:15Next slide, please. Human Services is requesting 1.36 million in county general fund for 2026. Our first request is for 1.2 million to cover the costs for the Boulder County 2026 compensation packages for human services staff. The annual increase in our state allocations does not keep pace with Boulder County's annual compensation increases. The second request is for 162,000 to cover our emergency management coordinator. This is a position that was covered by general fund in 2025. This is a necessary position for county disaster management response, but is not covered by the human services. State allocations. Thank you for your consideration of these requests, and I'm happy to take any questions? Thank you, Susan. Any questions, commissioners in regards to. This particular part of the presentation. I do have a question. Thanks. On the 162,000 in general fund support for emergency management personnel. The sentence here that BCHA s must dedicate fund 112 fund balance to fund. These functions. Are you trying to say here that you cannot.

0:11:42Use fund 112 fund balance for this service because you have. Other needs that you're dedicating that fund balance to. There's a little disconnect between the first sentence and the second sections for me. Thanks for the question, commissioner. We absolutely. Could use fund balance if commissioners were wanting us. To use our fund balance for that. There's no restrictions on us using fund balance. Is there available fund balance? There is. Okay. And we'll be bringing more detail to the commissioners the end of November. Around what our fund balance will be. So there is available fund balance. Okay. Then. I'm just wondering then why the request is to fund this from the general fund. I think, as far as alignment of trying to make sure that our state funding does go towards mandated programs. We understand that. There are currently and will be in the next couple of years, a lot of pressures, a lot of unknowns cost for us. And so that's one of the reasons, and also because. We wanted to have some continuity from last year's funding and feel that this is a county function.

0:12:54Not necessarily a specific human services function. Okay, thanks. Thank you. I was trying to figure out where my questions were. And I think maybe what I'll do. Is. One of my questions. Think, Susan. On the first slide that you shared with us. And it sounds like maybe we'll have some additional conversations. What I'll be looking for. For all of the department of directors, so I don't keep asking the same question. Understanding, and it's for us at the dice, but I think it's also for staff and community members who are very interested in how the county is addressing not just our structural deficit and budget and budget process, but also the federal and state impending changes from a budget standpoint and so the question on the personnel of the 27 FTE. That were reduction that you showed on the first slide. Just to understand. Of those positions if. Those are. What if that is ARPA funds that we knew was going to have an ending? Date.

0:14:06What if those positions were term and they were just hired as term positions? Either way or if those really are fte that had to be completely. Cut to meet the structural deficit. So just a question I think will help people understand one what we're confronting two that. There was some unfortunate knowings when we made some decisions around programming and resources through the Arpit funding over a variety of years. But also, just to be clear, if that's helpful. To understand the question. Yeah. Thank you for the question, commissioner. The 27 fte that we cut were all ft. There was no ArPa funded fte. Included in that. Cut. Thank you. Okay. I don't see any other questions. For that section. Thank you. Susan. We'll be moving on to item nine B next. And I'll invite Paul. Janapor up to present on information technology capital requests.

0:15:13Good morning, commissioners. PAUL JaNApoRE, information technology director, and I'm here to present on the information. Technology capital budget requests and recommendations for 2026. So here you'll see a summary of what I'm going to discuss, just up front so you can see. The total. So these are the projects recommended by our Technology Resource Advisory committee or track, and the total for these project requests is 2.287 million. And I will go ahead and just run through each project, and on the next slide, you'll. See. The recommended request. I'll cover these again at the end, but if we want to jump. Into the projects or the process. So just a reminder. The annual process for project request starts at the beginning of each year, and we do an intake process through track, as I mentioned. As projects are requested. They're put. Into be considered for the budget for the following year. So requests made for this year in 2025 or for the 2026 budget year, and then once that intake process is complete, projects are presented in scoring order to track for prioritization. And it is that prioritization that is being recommended to the board and presented to the board today. I think. Do we miss a slide there, Jillian? Sorry. So the projects are scored across the following. Values in terms of business value and strategic alignment.

0:16:41I won't go through all of those. But. Those are the elements that are considered in scoring. And then on the next slide, you'll see how they are prioritized. So from priority one, which is a critical absolute, must immediate. Need often required by a directive. Legislative mandate could be related to life safety. End of life of existing software or hardware that could put the county at risk. Ties to a prior commitment or an essential Boulder county capability will be rendered inoperative without the project funding. And then you can see that goes all the way down through to. Priority three. If funded, it's a nice to have a medium priority. And then some projects, when they are presented through to track, they are put in category five or six, because sometimes it's determined that the priority is just not that high, or we can. Figure out another way to make this happen. With existing resources, primarily staff resources. So I'll get into the projects now. The first project. Is an upgrade of the Boulder County Housing Authority's MRI software with a product called Yardy so this is the software platform that is basically utilized to run the housing authority. All elements of it. So their finance, property management, maintenance, compliance and administration of their vouchers. So it is an all encompassing enterprise software system for the housing

0:18:17authority. They've been operating with an outdated product. For years they've been looking for a couple, two to two and a half years to replace this product. And they're requesting approval to do that. You'll see that there's a zero dollar funding request here because. It is being funded by BCHA. However, there are it resources. Being. Requested. And just to take a step back, we're trying to present our projects, not just in terms of. The funding request in terms of money, but also what are the available staff resources to make these projects happen. We've been doing this over the past couple of years. You may have recalled how? This presentation is kind of morphed over the past three to four years. So this is a zero dollar, but it has to be presented here for your approval based on? The resource implications involved. The next project, and I'm happy to take. Questions on a project by project basis or wait till the end. I'll leave that to you. The second project request is from the sheriff's office, and it's for the replacement. Of their body worn camera system. They've been on a contract with an existing vendor that contract is up, they want to move to a different vendor. And extend the program transitioning to that new vendor, which they feel offers improved performance, reliability, and compatibility

0:19:41with our operational needs. They're looking at key improvements that include higher video quality, longer battery life, proven AI integration, secure cloud based storage and integrated evidence management tools. One thing I'll note is that this project. Is for the replacement of body worn cameras and a contract over the next five years, but also includes. A critical element of. Digital forensic storage or digital storage for multiple divisions. In the sheriff's office, we had a project we were running with the sheriff's office. To explore that possibility for their digital forensics lab, and now they would like to move that. Solution across the entire. Sheriff's office and. This project request also involves that. You'll see that the funding request here is a bit complicated in terms of. The real ask here is for $569,000 per year for five years.

0:20:43And. The total. Project cost each year is 1.369 million, but we have existing operating budget in our software as a service budget and in the sheriff's office's budget of 800,000 to cover that. So the total ask here is for that 2.84. 5 million over five years. Yeah. Commissioner Levy, thanks. Yeah. Thank you, Paul. First of all, let me express appreciation for the way you go about making these presentations and all the analysis you do. Did I hear you correctly that as part of this request, they are replacing cameras. Yes. Do those cameras have a useful life? I'd have to check on where they're at with that. I think that a lot of what they're seeing is. They're on a life cycle. Like a refresh cycle with their existing equipment. So if you're commissioner Levy, if you're asking in terms of what would happen with existing equipment, I could look into that for you. Well, I guess so. I'm just wanting to understand. I wondered whether the existing cameras could be used with the new software.

0:22:00Because I heard this primarily as an upgrade in how the video would be stored and searched and maintained, et cetera. I just didn't know whether new cameras are required every time we change software. Yeah, I'll have to confirm that. Do you know about hardware, Jessica? Yeah, we'll bring that to the sheriff's office to confirm, and then. We'll come back with that answer. In a PMI with the budget office, or I'll get you that directly. Okay, yeah. That would be great. And I also, maybe could you explain again. So, overall track priority. Two and then track priority, category one at the bottom. The distinction there. Yeah. So the track priority. Category. Refers back to the overall categories I showed. So this one is a wand because of public safety. The two is how it was ranked.

0:22:52With the 15 to 17 projects that were brought to track. This one was. The overall priority against the other projects is number two. Got it. Thanks. And you'll? See. On the next one, we'll move to number three. So this one is. That's okay on the request too. Before we keep moving, that might be the easiest way. To do it is just jump in. What commissions if there's questions after each one, so. We're going to have to go to the beginning. On that one for me. And the question really is just for the team who's presenting. So. Not necessarily for you, but since we're going to have some more conversations. It'd be helpful for me to understand one if that's a 6.845. Contract it looks like. So that we know that the number is not going to change during those five years that's. One the second.

0:23:41What? I would just be curious around. If it looks like this is already a vendor that's been chosen. And then the other one would just be how they came up with that calculation. The percentage of cap one funding versus ops funding, so I would love to hear about that if, you know. Great. And if we need to have somebody come back and let us know, that's great, too. I think I do know. So, yes, it is a five year agreement at that pricing, so. The pricing is fixed for that amount. I can confirm that, but I feel that. Was what we represented. And where we came up with that number. On the ops budget is. We are currently in the IT software as a service budget that we hold for the whole county. We have an amount that we pay the existing vendor every year.

0:24:32I think it's about. Off the top of my head, it's about $250,000. To $300,000. We also have an amount that we're paying for that digital storage that the sheriff's. Office has been using. That's an additional. I think it's pushing around 400,000 and then there's operating money in the sheriff's office budget that they have that basically they won't be using for the current vendor that could be transferred. So basically, it's $800,000 worth. Of existing commitments to the current solution that could be transferred over to this without increasing the operating budget. Okay. Thank you. And then the other question that I'll have, just understanding that this. One. Chosen would just be to understand from all of the proposals that we're going to see. Which one of these have gone through our new procurement processes and which ones would be able to something we've been talking about from the dice for the last couple of years, knowing that.

0:25:31We would have our disparity study done understanding that $81 million gap in contracting for Boulder county as an organization in regards to minority and women business enterprise. So it'll just be kind of a continual question for everybody that's going to be presenting things. Yeah. Just to answer this. Procurement predated that, so I think it was done before. Those requirements were set forth. If there's any desire to review that process. We can certainly talk to the sheriff's office about that. Thank you. Looks like we're ready for next. Request three. Okay, request three is looking. At contracted staff need for our county camera maintenance. So the county now has almost 1700 video surveillance. Cameras that. Are housed and utilized in our elections division. Jail operations, the coroner's office, criminal justice services. Are housing developments and other areas beyond that. The risk to the county in terms of.

0:26:36Properly maintaining and updating all of this infrastructure and ensuring that it's available in the uptime is as close to 100% as we can get, particularly in elections. The county does not currently have the staffing to dedicate to this, so for the past year we've been utilizing. Contracted staff to assist us in performing this role. And the results have been great. We've been able to. Really improve. The processes specific to elections. We've also been able to expand our camera presence across our housing developments, which is a critical need for BCHA. So the ask here is just to continue at this level of operation that we now find ourselves. In where we feel confident that we can provide the required services to these business areas. And the ask is to basically extend contracted staff through the end of 2026. At this funding amount of $285,000. And. We will need to review what our options are going forward there because we have been fortunate enough to contract with someone with a national level of expertise on the products that we use. And how they function and how they work. Feedback from the business areas has been overwhelmingly positive, particularly from the clerk and recorder and the elections division.

0:28:06Thank you. Moving on to request four. So this is another request for contracted staff to help with the completion. Of some work that needs to be done in human services for their business applications they run so this is touching on the community connect platform as well as the ICM application. Which stands for integrated case management. So there's work to be done across both of those applications, particularly in terms of the ICM application. Which the county is running. A very outdated and kind of primitive. Application that. We have been running for. I think probably coming close. 1516 years it's been. Need of an update. We've been wanting to do this for years. Now we are in a place where it really has to be done. And there is not capacity across our software development teams to do this. So the request from human services is for.

0:29:13$665,000. In year one. Followed by. An additional $332,800 for 2027 to complete this project. So the ICM application is critical because it runs the business workflows. for multiple human services programs but particularly child protection so the that's provided by the state, which is called trails, but the ICM application is how they run the actual workflows through a case. To help document and process what they're doing in service of families. And it also integrates the child protection team. With finance functions here at the county. And. There's a tremendous amount to be gained by finally moving off of this antiquated system. Thank you, Bill. Any questions? Request for. I'm sort of waiting for the question. To jowl in my head. Given how closely all of these human services program or services are integrated with the state and the state mandates and state software. Et cetera.

0:30:34Is it common for a county to. Run a completely different standalone. Business process function. On its own. I think it's a bit of a yes and no on that, commissioner. Levy. So historically. The state has provided kind of the primitive functionality for some of their programs, whether it's cvms with public assistance or trails for child protection. But that next level of actual business workflow was never built into those systems. So counties went and kind of tried to find. Their own solutions for that. So Boulder county, we did that with HHS connect when we called. It that I think Arapaho has their system. On the child protection side, it was never done. The child protection side is kind of behind the public assistance side. ICM was originally developed by a staff member at Jefferson county who just came up with the idea, like, hey, there's all this functionality that's missing, and they just created it. So the state has more of an interest now than ever, I think, in this. Type of work. And there are projects being launched to look into that, to say, hey, Here's the state version of this. But I do believe that. Their first look is at the public assistance side of things. they have not to my knowledge started looking for the county, like, if we were to stick with

0:32:05the current version of ICM, We would be, I think, stuck with it for at least three to five years before. The state provided something in that space. Does that help? Yeah, that actually answers my question very well. I think you answered it better than I asked it. Because I guess I wonder. Maybe this will happen, that we will be required maybe in the future. To transfer over. To a consistent state program. That's what I took from your answer, in part. I think that's on the table. But. My dose of reality that I would bring with that is that whatever this state comes up with, It would be three to five years before actual implementation. Based on history. Yeah, I think that's. A safe assumption. Okay. The data, the workflow. That this is just internal to Boulder County. It is on the ICM side. It is internal to us. Thank you, Paul. The question I had on this one was it sounded like maybe this was already in the works or. Is this from zero proposal?

0:33:25How far along is this project? Because it sounded, and I appreciate the 2026 number we're saying, and also. Your comment in regards to the additional 300. Yeah, that's a great question. Commissioner loachman. It really is. In a sense, it is underway because it has to be done. So really. The desire here is to get it done quickly. We don't want to leave this ICM upgrade just kind of floating out there and. Keep kicking it down the road, which is kind of what we've done for a couple of years now. So it is really trying to. Grasp an opportunity to hopefully take care of that over these 18 months, to be able to do all the work that needs to be done to maintain the community connect platform and also do the ICM upgrade once and for all. So it'll happen either way. But then we're looking at our own version of three to five years to try to make the ICM upgrade happen. Thank you.

0:34:25Looks like we're ready for request five. Okay. So this one. Is a request for a board of equalization software application processing system to provide. A sustainable, long term solution for property appeal. Submissions to the board of equalization. That supports just an equalized property tax assessments for taxpayers. So the county currently has an in house developed application that we run most of the BoE appeals process off of. I think the teams that work on this process have been looking for a major overhaul in that. And now. We both it and the office, county administrator and the teams that are involved in this have identified this as a good time to take a look to see what's out there in the market. So you'll see it's $300,000 request initially for cap one funding. To cover the first year and the implementation via the vendor, and then $60,000 per year after implementation. With this one. We have. The reason why this is good timing for us is we have a software developer who has developed. This application from start to finish. It's basically. The overwhelming majority of his job and his time. So. There's the potential for retirement there. So we're looking at what's our risk. With that, we could assign another software developer, but really, we think we can get a better solution and a better product

0:36:03that's more sustainable for the county. And really, in that $60,000 a year. If you were to weigh that against almost. 100% of a full time software developer salary. That is going to be a reduction in cost. For the County. Thank you. It doesn't look like there's any questions if we want to move. To item. Six. Next is a request from the IT department for some funding to further develop. Our strategy and explorations of AI, artificial intelligence here at Boulder county. So we want to do this through five separate initiatives. We want to enhance government communication. We want to audit opportunities for current and future applications. Explore. Our own AI infrastructure, investigate generative AI use cases, and assess body worn camera technology for future improvements. And I would just add that to that. Just really increase our capacity to be able to respond. As things are happening so quickly with exploration of AI tools. So. We are doing current work in it. On developing AI policy guidance for acceptable use. Best practices, training, governance. And then really looking at how do we utilize AI and leverage it to potentially provide business solutions. That lead to more efficient and effective service of the community. So funding request of $143,787. And that funding represents a mix of additional.

0:37:41Licensing for AI tools such as Microsoft Copilot, along with. Potential engagement with some consultants on AI implementation for local government and how to most effectively do that. Thank you. Doesn't look like there's any questions on the risk request. Six, we'll move to request seven. The next one is a request from the Office of Financial Management. For software to help with the annual comprehensive Financial report, or AKFR. So OFM is looking to obtain a program that's going to automate and assist in the compilation of the state of color. Colorado statutorily mandated act for process. They've identified a product that is specifically geared towards. This very process. You'll see the funding amount being requested there is $60,400. Thank you. Looks like we can move to request eight. Request. Eight is a request from the assessor's office for an email case management system. For the public facing inboxes that the assessor's office runs to help increase consistency, transparency, timeliness and equitability of responses to emails from the assessor's.

0:38:52Office staff. Really? What? This helps with is. We have shared mailboxes. We have Microsoft Outlook. We have processes that we can build into how these mailboxes are managed by different teams. But the system that the assessor is looking at. Is going to offer them more of an opportunity to manage the mailbox across people and track what's been answered. Who is responsible for doing what? So that's why referring to it as an email case management software. So the hope is to just really improve service, I think. That team is doing a great job, but the assessor has identified that part. Of where there's a gap, where they could be doing better is just management of messages. Knowledge of who's being worked. What's being worked by whom. So really just tracking what's being done and managing things.

0:39:44With a tool that offers that specific framework. So the funding request is $0 for this year. Based on a recent approval from the board of a repurpose of some existing cap, one funding. That could be utilized for this. That funding was originally associated with an assessor's office. Project that did not need to be implemented because it was tied to. A potential piece of legislation that was not approved by Colorado voters. Thank you, Paul. I do have one question on this item. Just looking at the description, you all have been knee deep in it. And thanks to track because I've been on that committee. I know there's a lot of conversation, a lot. Of work in the background. The question I have when I'm looking at this, it just makes me curious about. How all of our departments and offices and certainly I'm thinking even. Of the offices that serve the entire county. Might be able to use something like this. And our workforce development Council, we've had some AI conversations every time we meet. And one of them has been really just the setup of have AI responds to email, period, and response to phone messages, period. So just a curiosity, if this is like a pilot or. If it really is focused on the assessor's office and if others might want to consider putting

0:41:08that in their request to address the efficiency? That is a great question, Commissioner loacheman. And I left that out. I should have mentioned that. So part of what we're looking at here is an opportunity. To assess this particular tool and see if it is applicable across the county to other departments offices teams, committees, et cetera, where it could be of use. Okay. Thank you. Looks like we're ready for request nine. Request number. Just to note here. So again, Getting back to kind of our view of trying to present projects and bring requests to the board. For approval in terms of not just money, but also in terms of capacity and making sure that we're not overburdening our teams and then building a backlog of projects. That we're struggling to deliver on. Each of the subsequent requests is going to include in the total, and you'll see it. Accounted for some level of additional contract resources, either a business analyst or a project manager, or both.

0:42:15To assist us in actually. Carrying that project out, and you'll see how that's noted. But we just wanted. To note that here. So the next one is looking at our dimensions, time clocks, and replacing a lot of them that are end of life. Or all of them. So we're reassessing time clocks. Really our primary goals, to reduce. The number of time clocks that aren't truly necessary and we would be willing to explore with county leadership reducing that number to zero. There are other options for time clocks, like using a phone, an app to be able to log in and out. Punch in and out of dimensions. But whatever the amount of clocks is identified that we need to continue utilizing because we do understand. There are some areas of the county where staff. They either don't have. If they don't have a clock, they may not have. A computer. They may not have a phone.

0:43:14In some areas of the jail, you're not required to have. You're not allowed to have any of that, so we want to be. Respectful of that. But once we identify what that number is, then we need to secure funding for replacement of the clocks that are going to be out of the vendor support. so we do have some clocks that must be replaced next year as they're see here is $50,000 for hardware. To purchase. The clocks that we really feel are of the most immediate urgency to be replaced. And then $104,000 for contract staff to carry out this project. Thank you, Paul. The only question I'd have on. That. 104 the contract. Thanks for the explanation. Around the business house and project manager is that business analyst and the project manager. Are we going to say that shared for several different projects, or is that really one person? For this particular project. Clarify? Yeah, I think it would depend, Commissioner Loachman, on how many. Of these projects are approved, so we would. Attempt to do that as efficiently as possible. So the goal would be to have a resource that worked in multiple of these and not just a one to one across them. Thank you. Looks like we're ready for request. Ten. Okay, number ten is. It's a discovery project to look at the

0:44:42Boulder county pay period and pay cycle. So currently, the county pays on a monthly basis, so this is from human resources. A request to evaluate the consolidation of multiple pay periods and the feasibility of shifting from a monthly pay cycle to either a bi weekly or semi monthly schedule. Different pay cycles exist for hourly and FTE employees with varied hourly schedules also in place. So there is a thought that there could be a lot of gains and efficiency. By having more of a standardized pay process. And then also there are equity implications that the county has been aware of for some time in terms of the impact of monthly pay for some of our staff. It does make the month to month finance their month to month financial situation a little tougher. To navigate at times, so we want to look into that as well.

0:45:34So. This is a pilot, so there's no funding request other than the 51K for contract. Business analyst and project manager time. Thank you, Paul. I'll just share on that one. I hear the reasoning for it, but in our previous conversation that we had when I'm looking at all of the different costs and what we are going to have to reduce, I do have some concerns about this one, so it's not a question. I just want to be. Really transparent on. That. Thank you, Commissioner Luchman. I'm ready for request. Eleven. Okay, number eleven is a discovery project to look into lobby. Kiosks at some of our public facing locations. The request is coming from human services, so it's a request to explore a kiosk solution that's going to allow clients to check themselves in, select the purpose of their visit, choose a language. And be added to a digital queue that integrates with the HHSC system for front desk staff to manage, and the identified solution will also collect real time data on client visits. So with this one. There are a couple of things to consider. The request. It is a pilot. So again, the 58,000 is just for contract staff business. Analysts and project manager. And we do want to look at opportunities. To have a kiosk solution that could be utilized by multiple

0:46:54departments and offices at our public facing locations. And then we also, as part of the discovery, want to look at the cumatic solution that the clerk and recorder already has in place. At 33rd street in Boulder and in the hubs in Longmont Lafayette to see if the human services needs could be met by that product. This also came up. In a conversation I had with the assessor just a couple of weeks ago. Cindy was asking about kiosk capabilities that the county has. So the hope would be that we could really land on and identify a countywide solution, and then with the 28th street location, potentially coming online at some point. We would look at trying to get that solution there, because, again, that's another location where we'll have multiple departments operating client facing services. Commission.

0:47:46Yeah. Thank you. Question about this. I understand now from your presentation, this is just to explore this solution and see if this is. A direction we would want to go. I just made a note in the presentation when I was reviewing it that. I doubt this would actually eliminate the need for a person. Every time I've been. In a waiting room, like over at the clerk and recorder for vehicle registration. Somebody has needed help. With the kiosk system. The efficiency would be great. Maybe having consistency across different offices would be good. But I think we should just be mindful that inevitably we're going to need a person. Thank you, Commissioner Leery. Thank you. I think my only question on that one is just thinking about being. In some of our countywide conversations and meetings with staff, having some concerns about. The use and accessibility. I just see that the option for language, but. There is, from what I've understood from staff who are on the front lines of some of our. Services, including motor vehicle concerns about. The cultural piece in regards to the kiosk, so I get the efficiency, but I just. Want to make sure that that one is one that we've thought about from the react or. Other input. So thank you.

0:49:17Yes. Thank you, commissioner luxury. We'll share both of those pieces of feedback from both commissioners with the project team. Should it be approved or if additional information is needed prior to a decision. Thank you. Great. Any other last questions on this section, commissioners? Thank you, Paul. So I'll just real. Quick. Here's the summary of the projects and then I'll just speak quickly. Are there any questions at this level in terms of. The funding. Funding sources or dollar amounts. No, thank you. And then our final slide. Just want to go through the recommended request from it. So the first is our annual software as a service budget. Increase. So this is for software as a service? Software products throughout the entire county. The request for this year is going to be $1,063,032. After that. We have year two of five of the Boulder County Sheriff's office.

0:50:23Mobile data computers lease that was approved last year by the board. So this will be year two. Of that at a cost of $263,824. Third one is some final work on a prior approved project for network segmentation for the sheriff's. Office. The previous was a one time of the annual, and then this is a one time overall request. For $70,652. And then finally, as a budget adjustment from the it department in looking at our overall budget and trying to identify an opportunity to reduce our operating budget, and this is in the amount of $240,000. And. I'll just share that this is tied to some budget versus actuals analysis that we've been doing over the past couple of years and really trying to target. What our actual spends, particularly in terms of our software budget, and we've identified this as a reduction for 2026, and we would hope that in looking ahead a year from now, we'll be able to take the additional data that we'll have on how we're spending to be able to offer up another red. Reduction. Thank you, Paul. I just have one question on. The description. Let's see here. It's the 263. I heard what you said around one time. And.

0:51:47It's clearly recurring because it's a five year contract. For me to understand what I'm thinking about and just piques the curiosity about how all of these are inputs. I just wanted to ask white and maybe I see some look over. Here, Jillian. It's probably more. Accurate to assume that there is additional years of cost to come. And for the budget process. From a system perspective, we put things into either a one time or recurring bucket so that if there is some term limit to it, we're revisiting that on an annual basis. So this one time indication means that it will automatically be removed from next year's budget, and Paul will be asked to come back and look at. What is your three cost look like until the end of that project term? Okay. Thank you.

0:52:41Looks like there's no additional questions. Thank you again to you and track as well. Thank you commissioners. Thanks, Paul. With that, we'll move on to item nine, C and I'll. Invite Dale case up to present on transportation infrastructure requests being proposed by the community planning and permitting department. Good morning, commissioner. Stale case with community planning and permitting. Going to present the transportation sales tax. As related to capital projects and so forth this morning. And I want to call out that I hAVe DanNy HErMan in the room and ChRIstina BucKLes. And thank them for all their work helping put this together. The budget team and Heroko really. Helping us get through the numbers and do this, and our partners in public works as well, so. Just want to make sure that everyone is recognized. And for that. The first slide is going to be those requests that I've gone into the recommended budget. And these are projects that are continuing projects or commitments. The county has already. And so that's. The list of those projects, and if there's questions as I go through, please. Interrupt me and ask. Thank you. The next slide is. Our first priority project is bike shelters on the 119. Project. So as that project continues with bus rapid transit, And the bike laying down it. We need to have shelters to

0:54:20help connect that first and last mile of the project, and there's limited storage on buses. So these bike shelters really help people be able to utilize. The system and use that. So that's $625,000 request for next year. The next one is a request from the town of Superior. And it is for Hawk Crossing, which. Is a pedestrian crossing for making it safer for pedestrians across McCaslan, which is a difficult road to cross. We are being asked to contribute $125,000 over two years to this project. And that was helped to match the Doctor Cog grant dollars that come forward. So a lot of the sales tax funds was a project on the sales tax list. Yeah, thanks. I wanted to ask a question about the previous slide on the bike shelter construction. I'm sorry. It went by me a little fast there. A little quickly. Was this part of the original scope for the project? When it was all designed. I'll have to get back to you on that answer of what was scoped, I know, we were considering the bike shelters. I'm not sure where they fit in. In the budgeting and processing piece of it. And that's why I think. It's not a recommended piece because it's something that we're asking for. For construction for next year. But they've been designed and looked at

0:55:46as part of the project. Okay. And it was as your slide notes, it was on the 15 year transportation sales tax list, yes. Okay. That's all. Thanks. Any questions on the superior item? Doesn't look like it. Thank you. Okay, so we'll. Move into the fund 117 and TD 31, the transportation sales tax and the recommended budget items. Again, things that went into the recommended budget. Are continuing pieces of those programs. And a note of the $3 million of revenue that's being reallocated from the 2026 sales tax appropriation to the Roden Bridge fund. That is sort of an accounting piece that we have to do to account for where the money has to come from to be spent. As these projects move forward, The next slide. Request for $100,000 for the Colorado highway seven bus starter service. And this is. Part of a coalition of folks working on highway seven corridor project and. Our contribution to that. Which is $200,000 over the two year period. So $100,000 and 26. And $100,000 and 27 out of the total cost of $9,000,009.2 million for that starter service. Pilot program. And the next slide just shows the breakdown of the different communities that are contributing to that program. Along the corridor. Thank you. And the next slide is our step time. For strategic transit plan, and this would be

0:57:36being able to utilize two of our grant funded positions. To help with the transit plan, their transit planners. It helps us stay on track with that project. By having necessary staff and making sure we're paying them out of the right bucket of money and not. Using. The transit dollars. Arpa dollars for this? So it's just reallocation so that we can help get some efficiencies. From staff who knows things that's working with us and continue that project without slowing. It down. Dale, I have one question on this. The countywide strategic tends upline. I know we've heard about it in a previous conversation. Is this one already in the works, or is this. Coming up. The different fte that you just talked about. The transit plan? Yeah, the projects in the works. Now it started. We've got a consultant on board and we're doing that and. Then next year it'll really ramp up with a lot of outreach. Having the extra staff to help do some of that is important to keep it moving. Thank you. Next one is transportation partnerships, and this is from community cycles request. And a request for a local match of Denver.

0:58:58Dr. Cog grants, Denver Regional Council of Governments and a TDM program and project is to reduce help reduce vehicle miles traveled, helping promote. Community bike rides and bike chairs in the community. It's only $5,200 total over two years. Again, $2,600 and 26 and $2,600.27. Thank you. And the next one is again another transportation partnership grant with commuting solutions. And to partner with them again. Similar program launching a new regional bikeway bus rapid transit services. And really helping. To. Formalize that TDM and outreach in the community so people are aware of what's available targeting. Some of the. Disproportionately impacted populations to help them know what the transit options are along the corridors as we put these in to help move people around, and that's $11,350. For 26. And again, $11,350 will be in 27. Dale, I do have a question on this one. If the focus of this project. And that 11,000 looks like there's matching funding, et cetera. But if the focus of that work.

1:00:29Is intentional outreach to communities of color, or is it listed here on the side? Spanish speaking communities? Addressing equity. Is that team that's working on that. I just see commuting solutions, but I don't know. Who are the folks that are doing that work? One, are they already hired? Two, has this gone? Through. A procurement process that we use here at Boulder county. And the reason I'm asking is because. It's really hard to expect folks who are not part of that same community that's. Identified here very specifically on the slide. If folks aren't part of that same local community. So how it's going to function with the people doing it, and I don't. Know who the people are doing. On how that's set up and going to be focused and we can get that information. To you. And also just to know if that team has already been decided or chosen. Oregon, if that procurement process is an opportunity. To look at with. The request from commuting solutions group. So they're the ones who were helping to fund this through with the matching grant. Okay. Thank you. Could I ask a follow up on that? Sorry, I didn't see your hand. Yeah. That's why you didn't see it. So I know commuting solution is the TADm organization for 119, but. Will they? Maybe this is part

1:01:54of the follow up that you're providing to Commissioner Lo. Chime in. Are they doing it with their own staff or are they then going to contract for somebody else? To do this kind of outreach work. Yeah, I'll have to follow up. Follow up with how that program is being set up. I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if Daniel. Thanks. Thank you. The last one that we've got is the transportation and mobility plan. Scoping $50,000. And this is for our transportation plan. Update plan was adopted back in 2020 or 2019 and starting to get to its end of end of life or time for renewal and just starting that project to begin looking at what we need. To adjust as we move forward. Really looking at the county's movement of providing. For and recognizing racial equity in our work and making sure that's embedded in the plan. And just beginning the scoping piece of that.

1:02:57And that's again, over a two year period, $50,000 each of the next two years to do that work. Thanks, Bill. I think. One of the questions that I had in a previous transportation. Meeting about? How this plan and scoping. Is connected or interacts with the canyoid strategic plan. From a planning standpoint, and I'm sure it's more complicated than that, but. When I'm thinking about all of the funding and the asks and the needs, we're. Going to have in regards to a structural deficit. I'm just trying to figure out. Which one of these is either priority? Which one interconnects? Which 1 may we have? To say no to. These are all out of the sales tax fund. So I think a little different than your general fund, but. They definitely connect to the strategic priorities. I think we're making sugar as we do this. And the scoping would make sure that we're connecting. To those pieces.

1:03:59So I think. That's the simple answer. The funding for this one is from transportation sales tax. In this ask are the people that would be doing this work funded through general fund or they also funded through the sales tax. That is a good question. They are funded. It'd be funded. Through. Just trying to think of the positions. Yeah, that's okay. The whole team is in different. Funds. Mainly through the sales tax and then consulting help to do this work. So. This would be managing some of the consultants to do some of that stuff. Some of the scoping. And those consultants are general fund. Or those consultants would be just. Funds would help pay for some of that work. To consultants. Some of that 50,000 this year. Would be helping with getting consultants to pay to do the scoping work for us. It's. Not for additional staff. Thank you. Commissioner Sulfain, thank you very much. I just have a few comments. Just about overall in the presentation. I take the bus when I can. And I don't always, because sometimes it doesn't. Work out. But just want to clarify for folks watching that we actually don't have any bus rapid transit in our area. I sit stuck in traffic in what's being called bust rapid transit on 36 multiple times a week. It's a bus sitting

1:05:32in a general traffic la. Lane with other traffic and stopped, which is not what bus rapid transit is. I know we're. Calling a bunch of things bus rapid transit, but I just think it gives us a rapid. Transit a really bad name. So when we open 119, there won't be bus rapid transit. And there's not bus rapid transit on 36, and if you'd like to come. Sit and stop traffic on the bus with me. You're welcome to. It is a nice express bus. I do think people should take the bus. I love taking the bus. It works out great and it can be good for the environment, but. I don't think it's fair to call it brt. Just want to clarify. That as far as I know, commuting solutions doesn't provide any transportation demand management.

1:06:06They are a transportation management association, a TMA, but I don't know of any direct. Tdm that they provide. So I just wanted to clarify that since it was stated from my perspective, these projects. Continue a path of a disconnect between transportation planning and the community's priorities. And then providing concrete, tangible products that our public works team can implement. So I think that's. Something we need to keep working on. Is more cohesion between the planning projects and then what we need to do at the end. Of the day with public works. And there are some things that I'm just overall concerned about. There have been some big changes in the c ten year plan in the region four list that seem totally removed from the community's needs and seem removed from connecting with these priorities to leverage funding. And so I think we need to look at how we're spending dollars overall to maximize effectiveness in an area. That's historically been underfunded. Thanks. Thank you. It doesn't look like there's any additional questions on these sites.

1:07:06Thanks, Dale. Thank you, Dale. We'll move on now to items 90 through nine G. And I'll invite Steve. Durian to come up and present on a variety of funding sources and categories of capital requests. That will be managed by the public works department. Thank you and good morning, commissioners. I'm Steve Durian. I'm the public works director. We're going to do this. Presentation in two parts. One, we'll start with. The roanbridge fund fun 111. Similar fund as you just heard from Dale. And David McLeod from billing services will present our building services and fleet requests. First, on one level I'd like to thank Rachel Gadaki, TJ McKeown, Christine Obendorf. Aaron Reeves and our partners at CPNP for helping us to put together and analyze the budget that you're going to see today. So first I'm going to start with Road maintenance fund. This is a combination of operation and. Capital requests. So you can see these are our decision point requests. We are requesting about $8.25 million, much of which increases to our base budget. We haven't increased our base budget in many years. This is a result of increased inflation. Plus. The good problem of not having nearly as many vacancies as we used to have, so. Things like overtime. And on call pay. Are increased in these requests. I'll have you skip forward a

1:08:41couple. So here's the request we've got increase in two categories of overtime. $75,000 each slide is one and the next. Slide two. And then moving on to slide three again from inflation. This is an increase for contracted services. Increase in electric utility billings. Increase for ice, no mitigation material. This has increased quite a bit over time in the last few years. This is one of those that is caused by a decrease in vacancies and increase in just personnel cost. We're advocating for an increase in on call pay budget. Again from inflation. Increased budget for repairs in buildings and grounds. An increase in road based materials. This is the base materials that goes under the paving, I guess. You could think of it that way. Increase in utility trash removal. We've had a lot more. Increase in requests for removal of trash in the right of way. Increase in budget for water utilities, again on inflation related cost increase. This is the transfer of interest payments to the Road maintenance fund, resulting in increased. Paving in our arterial and collector roadways of $7 million. Now moving out to a couple of capital projects. This is a $500,000.01. Time construction request. If you recall, back in 2024, there was a tragic fatality. Two teenagers. Hit this embankment or abutment, and this is a repair to that structure.

1:10:30And this is the design of our highest priority. Scour critical structure in the county. And again. One time request of $40,000 for that design. So before we move on, I'll stop and see if there's any questions about. Any of our road maintenance fund or RM eleven request that we just went through. Thank you, Steve. Yes. I had a question. I'm trying to get to the right slide. There we go. It's your request? Number seven, increase in the budget for repair of buildings and grounds. And you have a picture. I don't know if that's our facility right there. I wasn't sure whether. This is not a capital request, correct? No, it's an operating request. It has largely to do with garage doors. We do have a lot of repairs for our garage doors that aren't funded from our building services. Funding. So this is. For the things that we repair on an ongoing basis in road maintenance that aren't really fall into that capital category of their billing services covers. Okay? Because we've had requests in the past. To replace garage doors or put in garage doors where we didn't have a garage door. So this is just an increase caused in ongoing maintenance because. Our garage doors don't function well. Yes, my understanding is that.

1:12:04A large amount of this is related to garage doors, especially things like our Longhorn facility, which has just the configuration of the building doesn't lend itself to it's got many. Garage doors instead of a long bay that has one garage door. So sometimes. We have experienced increasing cost in some of those facilities that weren't designed quite the way we might want to design them if they were current buildings. Is this request just solely related to the road maintenance facility? All the facilities that we have. Okay, this is what threw me off about your slide. It says the aging road maintenance facility has increased costs. And there's a picture, and I didn't know if. This is the garage door that is causing all the trouble, and you only need the money at the road maintenance facility.

1:12:48It sounds like this is more across the board. That's across the board all the road maintenance facilities that we have. It's just a typical picture of a brush door. Okay. All right, thanks. Okay. Thank you. Then I'll move on to our sales tax fund. Rst one. We have a number. Of recommended. On our recommended list. These are all projects that we have started already, either in design or moving. On to construction, about 6.52 million. But I'll focus on the few decision point. Items that we have about $340,000. We have post construction services. Which is kind of just related to all of our projects. We just wanted to have a budget. Line item to be able to take care of things like wetland mitigation, flood provisions, stormwater construction permits. Just want to also emphasize that stormwater.

1:13:39Construction permits are related to the construction projects themselves. Won't go into great detail, but we also have stormwater services that are paid for. The general fund that aren't related to our projects. So if you're thinking about stormwater permits and inspections. We do differentiate this item between whether they're related to construction or related to other things. So this is the ones related to construction in the sales tax fund. We have $100,000 in partnership. With the town of Superior for the Marshall Road McCaslan intersection improvements. This will be basically a grant to the town. And we have $160,000 in multimodal maintenance for some of our shelters. I believe. It's a couple of bike path, existing bike paths that we have that need to be maintained for things like snow plowing. Any minor repairs. Trash pick up, mowing, things like that. And I believe that it was all I have. For our rodent bridge fund, so I'll pause and see if there's any. Questions about any of those.

1:14:47Yes, Commissioner Levy. Thank you. You included. On your list. Let's see. Let me get to the right slide. Okay. Well, it went by pretty quickly. The Eldoro ski road reconstruction. Cumulative cost of $5.5 million. So I guess. Are we into that project already? The reason I'm asking is that. A ton of Netherland is in the process of buying the ski resort. They may be annexing that road. I don't know what the time frame is at all, but I just wonder where we are in this project. And whether, as you look at it, You're considering the fact that. We may not be responsible for this road in the future. That is correct. Yeah, we are definitely thinking about that. So this is a $480,000. Design item, the space two of a design. What we'd like to do is have the design complete and be prepared to make decisions about whether the future of the road, whether it annexes and. We would like to have discussions with this town of Netherland to see what their plans are as well, so I think we need to be thoughtful about the timing. Whether we repair the road and they take it over. Whether they take it over and they repair the road. So this is definitely something that'll take some thought going forward about how we actually pay for.

1:16:24It'll be an expensive project. When construction actually happens. So we definitely want to be thoughtful about how we spend our money on that road. So the cumulative amount that Is that scoped out for the cost of the whole project? That column actually is the cumulative of the entire fund. I was team lead on. We changed that column to, say, running total. Yes. I was reading across and I should have been reading down. I understand. Yeah, okay. This has always kind of been a thorn in my side, that this road, while it does serve some people that have homes up there. It primarily serves as key resort, and that's the traffic that's the source of all the traffic and the safety concerns and everything. And it seems like it should be a shared responsibility with whoever owns the resort. If we're facilitating the movement of more people to that site. So just an editorial comment. Thank you. Great. Thank you. All right, well, I'll hand it off to David McLeod to cover billing services and fleet.

1:17:45Thank you, Steve. Good morning, commissioners. Dave McLeod, deputy Director of public works. And as he mentioned, I will be covering our facilities and plea requests. If you could speak directly into the mic for the record. Thank you. Is that better? Thank you. Up here. You just see a summary slide. I'm going to be covering multiple different funds. Multiple different appropriations. So each group of funding source will have a different summary slide, and I'll just jump. Directly into the project requests. First one is the 28th street hub. Interior buildouts as you're well aware we purchased a new facility on 28th street, approximately 40,000 sqft. That we are going to convert into a Boulder community hub which will replace our North Broadway campus. The request is 12.5 million. This is a prior commitment, and I believe it is included in the recommended budget. Next one up is jail Kitchen edition. We are replacing the existing kitchen on the jail campus. It was originally constructed around the year 2000. To serve 287 beds. That population is nearly doubled over that time. The design is completed, it is out for bid and I believe this request is also in the recommended budget. Countywide security upgrades. This will be phase three of a three phase project. So this will be the final request along these lines. We're trying to make

1:19:24all our facilities consistent with our design standards related to security. That includes increasing perimeter security and closing our reception desk areas, areas and transaction counters, creating shelter in place rooms and making sure we have good passive egress for staff in the event of emergency. Request is 1.36 million, and I believe this is also a prior commitment which is included. In the recommended budget. Next up, we have the sheriff's office, radio towers. This request. Is. The genesis of this request is we have an existing lease for a tower in the Lewisville Hafayette area. That expires in the middle of next year. Definitely don't want to lose coverage. And this request will be to design, permit and build a new 100 foot tower to replace the one with lease expiring. Not mentioned on the slide, but this request also includes funding for design of a second tower in the northwest area of the county, up near Allens park. But that would be designed only. In a future construction. Related to that would be a separate request. Next up, community justice services, efficiencies, relocation. So this is kind of a daisy chain. Of actions here. We would be moving CGS staff out of the justice center and creating a space for them. And what is currently the detox center. We will be relocating county attorneys staff out of

1:20:59their current area over to the CJS staff. And ultimately, we would be creating space for a potential future edition of a courtroom for the 20th judicial. It does say, renovate vacated space on there. That is a typo. This is not to build out a new courtroom. This is just. To get folks where they need to be and set ourselves up for. A future courtroom edition if needed. Commissioner Levy. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, Dave. So the relocation of the CJS staff. To the. Vacated detox facility. Is that projected to occupy the whole building? There have been discussions about a number of uses of that building. One of those is. For some sort of a residential step down. Facility for folks that are coming out of the jail that need longer term residential services for addiction. Treatment or mental health supports. So that's why I'm wondering whether this would occupy the entire building. The proposal, whether it could be structured so that the two would be compatible.

1:22:19With one another. The two uses. The short answer is no. We do not anticipate that. CGS staff will need that entire facility. We have not gotten far enough with planning to tell you exactly what that footprint would look like. I had not heard that specific use case being proposed for the detox facility. I believe that might be something that's being proposed at the current site of the copper door facility. But to the best of my knowledge, This request is exclusively to get CJS moved over. In an adequately sized space in that facility. The additional space in that facility, to the best of my knowledge, has not been programmed for any specific purpose. Okay, yeah. And the use that I mentioned. There are a number of uses and there are a number of facilities, and I don't. Think anybody. None of them have landed on a specific location. So I just wondered about the availability of.

1:23:19This particular facility. Again, there will be some excess space. Exactly how that will be programmed, I think, is still to be determined. And I just had one additional question on that. One, just to understand where this is in the motion. Of decision. Already done moving, already happening. Is this just design? And also wondering if there's a few items included in this 2.9 million that might be helpful. For me to understand. How that's broken down. The question I'm asking. Sorry. The question I'm asking is really just around, is. This something that has to be done right now, given again our structural deficit and the budget restraints. That we do have. So just have an understanding of where it is in the process would be. Helpful. So the request is. For. The renovation and relocation of the detox center to accommodate CJS staff. It is to renovate the CJS staff space to accommodate the county attorneys. I think. The relocation of cjs staff. Is intended to kind of coincide with the Jopelli center coming operational. They will be serving staff at that campus. So I think. There's some efficiencies to be gained by having CGS staff in close. Proximity. Also the fact that we are trying to create. An empty space that can be converted to a courtroom again. This is a daisy chain set of moves,

1:24:49so we're trying to get ahead of that. Requirement. And use the time that we have now to get all the other pieces in place. Okay? And. I think that's. I see. Hang on just a second, if you don't mind. I think that's where I'm going. Is. What? Is also potentially being considered as part of this, we're seeing a 2.9 million right now for 26, but then is the renovation vacated piece that you said is not actually included. In here. Is that going to be coming next? Just so we have an understanding of what the full ask might be if we were able to say yes to a 2.9. Now what? Is not included in this request is. The build out of a new courtroom. We would vacate space, create an empty space that could be converted to a courtroom. So if and when that request.

1:25:37Has become a real thing from the 20th judicial that would be a subsequent quest that we would bring to you for the courtroom renovation. Okay. Thank you. This is not a done deal at all. Each of these that we're deciding on is up for our discussion and deliberation. I mean, this was originally, in my opinion, prompted from the 20th JDE asking the state for another judge, which they did not get, and they think they're going to get one next. Year. I don't, but they do, so we'll see. Well, I appreciate that. I think. The reason I've been asking some of these questions. Some of the responses have been and not necessarily, David, but some of the responses so far have been it's something already in the works, so I'm thinking. This will be a decision point. Exactly. What I hear you're saying is. It could be a decision point. And so to have an understanding of what's actually already happening versus. Not is helpful to me. So thank you for saying that. I do think that regardless of whether. Another judge ship is created or not. The move for CJS over to the jail campus is something they are pushing for to be in close proximity with their clientele. Okay, and again, I'm just looking at this as a we do not have money to

1:26:58do all of this. And when I say all of this, I mean all of the asks that. Are going to be coming to us. When I think about the entire county and so just have an understanding of. What is some of the asks are because. We have vehicles that are no longer working or we have a garage door that no longer can keep the items in at the needs and all the others, so I'm just trying to. Have a good understanding. We are going to have to say no to something. Completely understand. So I appreciate that. Okay. Doesn't look like there's additional questions. Thanks. Next up is the copper door. This is the facility that is going to be replaced. The functions that are being carried out here. Will be replaced or will be rehomed over to the Joe Pelley center later this year. So looking at this facility, This facility is well past its useful lifetime. It's in pretty rough shape. This request would be to demo that facility and do some initial planning for what might come next at that site. Request is 1.45 too. Thank you. For me, the note that I had made previously was just similar to my other question.

1:28:08About to have an understanding of how that 1.4 breaks down for me would be helpful. For a future. It sounds like we're going to have some additional conversations. The 1 million of that is for the demolition itself and disposal. Of the debris and the 452 is. For planning for future use of that site. So planning and design. Of a potential future facility. So just for me to understand the 452 to plan and design future would make me think. That there's already a decision about what that new space is going to be and if not. Just curious about what the potential of moving one of those versus the other so that we could decide what was going to be there. And then in my mind, the planning and design might look a little bit different, depending on what the board gave direction to have at that site, and I don't think it's for a full design of a new facility. As if we. Know exactly what's going in there. This would be some initial programming. To help make that decision. We will be looking at zoning requirements, traffic requirements, doing a TDM study. Just to help inform what could go there. Thank you. Great. Jail building seat restroom remodel. This restroom as original to the jail when it was originally constructed, there was a lower level

1:29:40offender. Assigned to these spaces. That is no longer the case. They have a higher level of classification of inmates that are being held there. The finishes are in pretty rough shape. A lot of tile there, which we would normally not install. In a detention grade facility. But the tiles coming off the wall present to safety hazard for staff and inmates. Those shards can be converted into weapons, and so this is something that we desperately want to address. Thank you. I feel like we've seen this slide in the past and just wanting to know if. Two things. One on the side. Ada complaint, I'm guessing. Needs to get into AdA compliance. Correct. And then the other one is this 1.2 million. Unupdated number just because. Again, I think we've seen this slide, I believe. This has been escrowed. This was presented as a request last year, and I believe the dollar value has been. Escalated. Okay.

1:30:43Thank you. Commissioner levy. This is maybe not in your Bailey wick, but when it seems like I don't. Know if this is. You would consider this a big project or a small project, but it seems like when we do these projects at the jail, it always necessitates moving some inmates. Around to accommodate. And we're trying to get this whole plumbing project finished so that we can fully utilize. All the space that's been planned and designed. Do you know anything about how this is going to impact our ability to get folks where they're ultimately going to be. And use all the design space. Every project in the jail is very challenging for that exact reason. So with the new booking coming online, I don't remember the number of cells that are incorporated into the new booking project, but. That is going to be somewhat of a relief valve that allows the jail staff to have some more flexibility in terms of moving inmates around. So that's kind of, we've been holding off for new booking to become a reality to do. Some of the piping upgrades, and this one aligns with that as well. So this has already been planned into that whole offender moving. Process.

1:31:59We have not gotten to the point of scheduling, but that is basically. The resource we are going to use. That gives the jail staff more flexibility. In how they move staff around. We would likely time this, try to time this where we are in that same module doing the piping upgrades. We would try to do this at that same time. That would be good. Thanks. Thank you. Family justice center planning and design. This is a request put forward by the DA's office. They would like to create a family justice center that will centralize essential community based services for survivors of domestic violence, sexual assault human trafficking and child abuse. This funding request is only for programming, planning, location, test. This is not to build or construct a new facility. We have talked about likely this would need to. Be some sort of leased space. So this would just be planning and design for how that lease space would be used. The district attorney's office. Is seeking out grants and other sources of funding. So again, at this time, the only request is for the initial planning dollars. Thank you, David. Commissioner. Stolen. Thank you. I've spent a little. Bit of time this year just trying to learn what a family justice center is since the DA's have been talking about this for a few years

1:33:30now, so I visited the other family. Justice centers in the state. And then watched some webinars and learned about the budgeting and all of that to understand. Would I want to do this? Ultimately. What additional cost does this sign us up for? And I think what I'd be interested in is at a future budget meeting getting the DA or his staff to come forward and talk. About if they'd be willing to do a pilot program in some underutilized space. At the Lafayette hub rather than this project of designing something. So I'm interested in understanding if they'd be open to pivoting this a bit, I think that would be. Something worth considering. Thank you, commissioner. Levi. I saw your hand. Yeah? We had this request last year. And we did not fund it, correct? Last year.

1:34:14Yeah. I had real concerns about whether we actually need this. Whether these other sources of funding. Will materialize, whether they're sustainable. So these are all questions for the district attorney. But I did want to just confirm my memory that we actually did not fund this last year. And so this is just a renewal of that existing request? That is correct. Thanks. Thank you. And Commissioner Salzman, I appreciate your idea, and I would support that from a staff and scheduling standpoint. Just. First. Half benefit to try and get that meeting, and I would guess we need to get that done. In the next couple of weeks. Just thinking about the November 6 date that Jillian shared with us. Earlier. I think for me on that, the question would just be to understand. I heard Alafa hub is one particular space, but just to have an understanding of. What are the other spaces that might be a fit for what the ask is here? I'm. Just not as familiar with. What they've been discussing, planning or wanting to design, so thank you. I know the overall square footage that they have been talking about is around 20,000 sqft. Which is a very large amount of space. To fully implement their vision. 20,000 sqft is about the first floor of our Lafayette hub. Just as a point of

1:35:42reference. Thank you. In the Jefferson County center. It's 20,000. So I've toured it and. Looked at all their diagrams and everything. And I do think work from home has changed the way that that space is fully activated. So to me, When I am. And this isn't my thing. And that's why I say pilot. Program, but it looked like they were actively using about 8000, underutilizing the rest of the facility. But that was just my observation. Great. Thank you. Keep getting ahead of myself. Fairground camper, restroom facility. Restroom and shower facility. This is an outdated facility. That we do invest an inordinate amount of time and dollars into maintaining. It is a high priority for the fairgrounds. This is one of their largest revenue generators on site. The request would be for a demo and full demo and replacement of the existing shower and restroom. Facility.

1:36:46Requested amount is roughly $2.5 million. Thank you. The question I had on this one. And we've had some really brief conversations in regards to the fairgrounds and some of the upcoming steps. Potentially just bring back a holistic conversation about the fairgrounds. On this particular ask. Could you tell me, David? Because I just don't remember. In that the fairgrounds master plan activities. And conversations that happened in the past few years. Was the location of this particular. Restroom and shower facility the same in those three different options that were created at that time or at any point did that restroom, shower facility, was it proposed to change? I do know this was one of the facilities that was slated to be replaced if we were to envision the full fairgrounds master plan. I don't specifically recall. The location, but we would make sure. Whatever we're doing here, we want to be consistent with that vision. So we would make sure that we are consistent with. What was being called out in the fairgrounds. Master plan. Okay. And then. Just to understand the 2.4 ask. There's already a design. There's already a plan. This would be construction or it would be a little bit of. This is all of the above. This would be for design, demo and replacement. Full construction of the replacement. Okay. Thank you.

1:38:28Moving on. Yes, thank you. Parks and open space yard paving. This has been a request for the past at least three years. Parks would have liked to pave the area around. Their maintenance facility out at ostc. This would be specifically for the east side of the lot. It is challenging out there for snow removal. And there are some identified safety hazards associated with that. The inability to effectively remove snow out in that lot. There have been issues in the past where. Dustin debris gets blown off of that lot and contaminates our biomass. Fuel supply that's adjacent to this site. Overall request is one point. 11 million and some change. Thank you. Doesn't look like there's any questions on that item. Sheriff's headquarters digital forensics lab. From my understanding, the current space is too small. They do not have an adequate space to have workstations for all the staff that work out of that space. They would like to expand it. And. Add or upgrade the existing sleeping rooms within that space for staff that stay there overnight. The requested amount is 288K. Thank you. The question I have on the 280. Is that 288 really for the reconfiguration? Adding additional sleep rooms and drop in stations. Correct. I don't think it's new. Sleep rooms. I think it's just renovating that entire space. So that would

1:40:26be our in house staff. Time to design. That's not something we would push out to a consultant. But that would be for the full construction of that space. So that would be the design. And the construction of the list. I like the specificity of the $402. Excellent. We try to be precise. Thank you. Next up. This is another summary slide looking at various different funds. That these requests are coming from. Next slide, please. First up is ost vacuum truck waste facility. For the road maintenance team. They have a vector truck that they use clean out coverts. That sludge basically has to get dried out before it can get transported off site for disposal. We do have a vector waste disposal facility now that just currently does not work as intended. It does not allow the liquids. To drain off and allow the sledge to dry out. So. This would be a new facility on the same site that is open air. One of the problems they have with the existing one. It's in their maintenance base. That stuff does tend to get very foul. Creates odors and health concerns for staff working out there. So this would be a standalone facility? Outside of their maintenance facility. We do have a completed design on the shelf. That was previously funded. We see this as

1:42:13a prior commitment. I believe it is in the recommended budget request is 518K. Thank you. Next up, Mountain rescue building. Another instance where we have a completed design. This is actually out for bid right now. Being funded by the emergency services sales tax. I think this project in particular was part of the genesis of that sales tax initiative. Again. We have it in Alphabet now. We would get construction underway late this year, early next year. It is considered a prior commitment in the recommended budget. We do have funding on hand. This would be requesting an additional 12.4 million. Thank you. I think this is not the correct graphic to go with this one. But otherwise. We do have an approved project to replace. This lab underneath the existing fuel tank. Which is a deficiency that was pointed out by the state inspector. We intended to proceed with that, but learned that the existing tank would have to be closed out. And repermitted and the existing.

1:43:37Tank that is grandfathered in now would not meet current requirements. When we had to go back. To repermit it. So this is to replace the actual tank itself. This will be coming out of the fleet fund, and the requested amount is 140k. Thank you. Heavy vehicle column weft replacement. We have already replaced a couple of these a few years back. The in ground hydraulic cliffs that we have are in disrepair and are no longer functional. Rather than trying to replace those, which will be very expensive. We would like to replace them with some standalone jacks. That again, we already have a couple of these that are working very effectively. They meet all current safety standards, and they're relatively cost effective compared to trying to restore the in ground lifts. And again, this is out of the fleet fund. Thank you. And the last request within the fleet fund is for fleet telematics. This was a request? That was borne out of our fleet utilization study. Our consultant identified. A subset of vehicles that was heavily underutilized. They recommended for removal. They identified a large group of vehicles that are heavily utilized and recommended to keep. There's also a lot of vehicles that kind of fell in the middle that they recommended continuing monitoring for.

1:45:05Currently, the only way we're able to get that information is. Just when vehicles are fueled up, you get kind of a tally of the mileage and. We did a questionnaire with staff to better understand how they're using it, but neither of those approaches gives you very much granular data to make informed decisions with. Telematics is relatively inexpensive, but I think it would give us a much better overview of how we're using our vehicles and what potentially open the door for future reductions and future savings. Thank you. So this sounds like a really great idea. I'm just wondering about. Most vehicles these days have integrated. Some sort of telematics that are integrated into them. That maybe insurance companies access. The vehicle manufacturer accesses for scheduled maintenance. Would any of this be available? Through those existing. Integrated systems that we might be able to get access to.

1:46:15There may be some, but would be very piecemeal. Approach to trying to get a holistic picture of how we're using our fleet. I know that parks is already using this system, and they found it very valuable. In terms of adjusting how they're using their fleet vehicles, I think the level of detail and having all the data. In one manageable format I think is worth the relatively minimal expense. Sure, probably. I have a question, and it's really this one, but it's also some of the other items. On there, and I appreciate that it looks the way I'm interpreting this slides is that there's an ask for a dollar amount for a specific item. But what I'm not understanding is how there's got to be a person that then is going to be looking at the data that you just asked for. And so how we take that into account. And if there's going to be these other impacts and there was a few different sides that I was thinking. That maybe you're just putting. Into it, the staff resource. And I'm just thinking about all of the presentations and some of them were presented in, like, this is also a staff resource that's going to be needed here. It's just kind of a comment in general about the different asks that you've got. For this particular

1:47:33ask. I don't think there will be any. There's no associated Fte request. Our fleet staff would manage that in house. Again, the feedback we've gotten from parks is this is a pretty user friendly system. That fairly easily allows you to dig down in the data and get some good, useful information back. Out. Yes, there are definitely some previous requests. The family justice center, for instance. That. I suspect there is likely some staffing requirements associated with that, but that was not part of my purview as putting this request together. But for some of these, yes, there are likely. Ft. Requests that would need to go along with us. Thank you. Onto the recycle center fund. If you go back just one. Please. Do I not have a summary? Oh, I apologize. There was a summary slide earlier that had all of the different fund sources on there, and I noticed there was a typo.

1:48:42All of these requests are associated with Fund 199, appropriation SW 13, I think. There was a column got dragged down and you had an sw 13 1415 or something, so. I just want to clarify that these are all fund 199 appropriation SW 13. First one up is recycle center fire suppression system repairs. This project is already partially funded. We've replaced about half of the fire suppression piping. Within the recycle center. This is the second slug of funding that will allow us to complete those upgrades throughout the entire recycle center. And I think I've mentioned it before, but this is the only facility that I have. Seen where we have actually had a fire in my time with the county. So I think with the batteries and various things that get processed through that facility. Fires are much more likely. Of any place that I want to have high degree of confidence that our fire suppression system is going to work, this would be the place. Recycle center tipping for repairs. The tipping four is original to the recycle center. Itself. I think it's a little over 20 years old now. The tipping floor is in constant operation, with heavy machinery rolling over it all day long. It's in pretty bad shape. And it simply is past its useful life. It needs to

1:50:16be replaced. So that's what this request is. Thank you. Viewing bridge efficiency upgrades. I think this is primarily, they have a lot of. Information and kiosks in the viewing bridge when they take folks on tours. The viewing bridge itself, which kind of connects the admin. Building to the recycle center proper is an uninsulated, unconditioned space. But they're leading groups through there, whether sometimes it's elderly, sometimes it's school aged children. But in either case, it's very hot in the summer. It's very cold in the winter and they would like to have that space condition. To help facilitate learning as people are going through there and they're not just shivering or sweating and can actually focus on the information that's being presented. Sometimes county commissioners go through there, too. Just a question on the efficiency upgrade. If there's any functionality. Or safety health piece or if it's more around. Request for comfort. I think it's more for comfort of the groups that they host out there. For again, a lot of it is school age children, some of this elderly. They just want to have a comfortable space where people. Can focus on the information that's being presented, okay? There's already something written out there that would say the 98,000 would be. I'm just trying to understand if there's more to it. This is adding a couple

1:51:58of split unit conditioning units. And insulation to that area. Thank you. Just from my personal perspective, this was never designed as an internal space. Is an interior space. I think it was designed to be a dry space to view, but more like if you were outside, but it's covered and protected from the wind, so I think we're now seeing that the staff wants to use it differently, as if it's an indoor space, but. It's not a conditioned space currently. So the question is, like, do we want to take what was sort of like a shed or like an outdoor space and make it an indoor space. Is the question we're being asked. Thank you. And I have gotten an opportunity to be there with different groups of folks and see what they've done over the last couple of years as well in regards to their presentations. Et cetera. So just want to understand. Go ahead, commissioner. Yeah, I did have a question on whether. This.

1:52:57Viewing bridge as it's been described here. Does staff use this to get from admin? To the recycling center. Does it have a current ongoing staff use or is it mostly just for visitors? Staff definitely use it to transit from the admin building over to the recycle center. Proper. I don't think anybody is concerned about being too hot or too cold just on that. Transit to and from. I think over the years they've added more and more educational displays. In that area. So when they are taking groups on a tour, They're spending a lot more time in that space than they originally probably intended. Okay. Next slide. Fiber line, bunkers and conveyor repairs. The next few slides are all just equipment within the Recycle center. That are either at end of useful life. Or would be adding efficiency. To the operations over there. The first one up is the fiber line bunkers and conveyor. Repairs. This project would replace the existing automation controls. And replace the existing. Cross conveyors. For the fiber line processing. Request an amount for that is 350k. Thank you. The next one is to rebuild and or replace conveyors. And they would like to do that. They want to bring out a contractor to assess the condition. Of the conveyors. And either repair existing or replace as needed. Thank you. And the

1:54:46last one is the glass recovery system. They want to replace the entire system. That was installed in 2001 and has exceeded its useful lifetime. Just to make sure that they continue to process efficiently. And maintain their operations out there. Thank you. For me on the next when we see this again, just have an understanding of that. 1.2 and the breakdown of that, if that's really just the cost to do construction and or if there's other components of that. For the glass recovery system? Yes, please. Thank you. All right, next up is this is just a summary slide of all the individual projects I will jump into. But those were our priority one projects. Basically, these are items that we think. Have either failed or will fail imminently within the next year. First up is the jail. Local controls. If you've ever had a chance to visit the jail site and see how they are. Operating now. It is a pretty antiquated system. Although it is a very important system, being able to manipulate open and closed doors throughout the jail. Facility. The current equipment they have out there is no longer supported. They can't get replacement parts. So they're doing workarounds just to make sure this system is functional again. This is a pretty critical system. And think it needs to be prioritized accordingly. Next

1:56:25up is 25 25 13th street. Elevator modernization. Over the past couple of years. We've had continuous issues with the elevator at 25, 25 going down every time it gets cold, which it does frequently over the winter around here. And this is not only impacting our operations, but Clinica, with whom we share the building. Worth pointing out that this would be reimbursed. I think it's roughly 55% of the share would go to Clinica, so roughly. 55% of the proposed costs here would be reimbursed for this project. Thank you. Michelle. No, that's fine. Is the 198,000 hours share of the total, or are you saying that clinica would. Pay. 56% of that, the full cost is 198. We would be reimbursed. 110 ish of that. Got it. Next up, long courts r 22 chiller replacements. All of these are. Again, these are facilities components that are at end of useful life. Worth pointing. Out that this is r 22 refrigerant, which. That refrigerant is no longer allowed to be used, no longer allowed to be produced. So.

1:57:58It's an older system that needs to be replaced. The same goes for the next slide. Which is a replacement of an air handler unit. No, this one's at RCD, at resource conservation, but very similar situation. End life. Old type refrigerant that is not environmentally friendly, and we would like to replace those. Units with more efficient units. Thank you. Next design of jail firearm upgrades. This is something that the fire marshal has told us needs to be addressed. It's an antiquated system. No longer able to get replacement parts for this one either. This request is specifically for design. There would be. A future request for implementation, and I do not have that estimate. Thank you. Next up is the fairgrounds exhibit. Building, roof repairs. The roof is in pretty rough shape. I know there have been incidents when they've had. Large groups rent out the exhibit building. I know the quilting group was one of those where they had some relatively expensive quilts damaged when it was raining out there. Ideally, we would hope to replace the roof in its entirety, but understanding fiscal constraints. We're posing to put. A new coating on there to see if we can get another couple of years out of it. But ultimately, this is something you will be seeing again in the not too distant future. The full roof

1:59:38does need to be replaced. Thanks, David. And this is one that I had just brought. To the commissioner's attention at previous discussion and what would be helpful for me, I believe trees. Glocky was in one of those conversations as well. And their recommendation to do the roof replacement and that this particular building, it seemed like, was in. All three of those master plan. Options in the same place. And so what I was curious about, it sounded like there was some additional funding options. It would be helpful for me, and I think for the group to see what that $1.6 million ask would be and the different funding sources to understand if we might be able. To consider that outside of just the coding that you mentioned. You are absolutely correct. That this is one of the buildings that was identified to remain as part of the paragraphs. Master plan, so I think it is something worth investing in. I know Teresa has talked about potentially finding some other funding to help. Fund the full replacement of the roof. I don't have the numbers in front of me. We put this a roof replacement, forward in the past, but we also added some other efficiency upgrades.

2:01:00Baked into that project. We were going to replace some windows. New circulation replace doors. I believe that entire price tag for doing all those upgrades was in the 1.6 range. I don't remember specifically. What? Just the roof was. But this is definitely something that we've had our eye on for a couple of years. And we know it needs to be addressed, okay? So I think I was expecting that to be in there. I feel like I told the board that Teresa was going to provide that for us. So for the next presentation, if you can work with her to make sure that that's encompassed so that we can at least consider. What? The roof and the breakdown that you just talked about, but I think we were focused on the roof. I know. I specifically gave Terese the breakout for the cost of the roof as a standalone request, so I know she has that information. Okay, great. Thanks. Walden Ponds Road maintenance facility generator.

2:01:58I don't know if you've had a chance to visit our Walden site that's. Kind of tucked away. Of Roth, 75th Street. That is the primary location for our road maintenance. Groups within the city of Boulder area. And that is. Their primary fueling site as well. Without power, they cannot fuel their vehicles. So I think it's a pretty critical facility to make sure that. We have uninterrupted power. And I think it's a relatively small investment to make sure that we have some resiliency out there. That's one side I haven't seen. Yeah. Should I interpret this to mean that we currently do not have any backup power option at this site. That is correct. You could go buy a generator. Come on. We do not currently have backup power at the site. Thank you. Next slide, please.

2:03:02This is the sheriff's fleet replacement request. List. Grand total is one point. 63. Nine, five, six. I can't speak specifically to the individual vehicles that are being asked. I don't. Believe we have sheriff's rep here. But I know. This is fairly close to what they asked for year in and year out. I think they usually get between 15 and 16 vehicles. They're asking for 18 vehicles this year. I know they are trying to integrate evs where they can, but a lot of their vehicles are simply not compatible with current evs available on the market. Thank you. And I think for me, When we see this again. So just to pass along to the sheriff's office team, Sometimes there'll be a line somewhere in this slide that says, here's the priority. Again, if the board is unable to do a full 1.6 on this one, ask just to have an idea. I see the priority order.

2:04:11But otherwise the option is for us to say what we could do an x amount for this. Item, and then they'll have to kind of figure out up to what number. So if they're able to put a line in there, whether it's based on. Absolute. What is it? Functionality or something like that. That's fine. And if not it's? Okay. I just would love to know if they've already considered that or if that. Line is really there. We absolutely need or want those 18. I will pass along that feedback, and perhaps they can incorporate as part of their follow up presentation. Thank you. Commissioner lo Jamie a little different than the question you're asking, but probably worth noting. We did include in the recommended budget $900,000 of funding for sheriff's fleet replacements. Which is consistent with the level of funding been provided over the past several years. So from that perspective, the additional ask would be the difference between the 1.6 and the $900,000 we've consisted.

2:05:13We consistently funded in prior years. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for that. That's helpful. And. Knowing that number, that's in the recommended budget, I could easily amend the slide to have that reflected where that cut line would put you on this? Ask. Great. Thank you. All right, general. Fleet replacements. I did have a chance to speak to all of you back when we got the results of our fleet utilization study. Which was recommending. A replacement level, a replacement funding level of around $2 million. That's what we tried. To capture in this request here. Is. This is what we anticipate being able to acquire if we were funded at that. Level. I just have a curiosity on this. The fleet replacements, and if we are set up. Regionally, and it just made me think about it.

2:06:11When you're asking for the backup. Powerpiece. Are we set up right now, currently, to be able. To have all of these vehicles on here. Charged for the needs that the different vehicles provide for staff. So up until this point, We've more or less tried to approach this as having a dedicated charging port for every EV that we roll out into the fleet, that is not sustainable. We just don't have the capacity at several of our sites we're already at. Capacity. We've already added new services and then max that out. It's just not. A sustainable approach to guarantee that there will be a dedicated parking spot, a charger for every single vehicle. There will be some need. For departments to work out some sort of rotation cycle. To keep vehicles topped off, but. We definitely have plenty of charging at all of our facilities. We are also working to roll out. Currently, we have two that we're working on now. DC fast chargers. One will be out at OSTC, one will be at the sheriff's. Headquarters.

2:07:26But we envision that as. A more effective response moving forward. Is having a more or less like a gas station sort of set up where individuals can go. Top off as needed. They're not necessarily home based and parked at a dedicated charger. We're not going to get rid of chargers we have, but I think we need to. Kind of shift the paradigm and. How we're utilizing our evs. And especially if we continue to get an appropriate level of funding for vehicle replacements, we will be dramatically accelerating our ev rollout and going with the fast chargers, I think, is going to allow us to have that flexibility. Thank you. And last but not least, Human services does have a request for two additional vehicles for their team. Which they would be funding out of, I believe, fund 112. And is that my bubble slot?

2:08:30That's my final thought. Great. Thank you. Any additional questions? It doesn't look like we have additional questions. Thank you so much. Thank you bring this forward and. I think. How many more teams do we have? Because I think we may take a break. That's going to be our last presentation for today, so if it's helpful, I can kind of run through the next couple of dates we have ahead of us, and we can call it a morning. Okay. Is everyone okay? We were talking about maybe taking a break, but it sounds like we might be. Within a couple of minutes. Okay, 30 seconds. Even so, we will be back again on Thursday morning to hear some additional presentations. On funding requests for 2026. We'll hear from a couple of elected officials with general fund requests, as well as some of the departments that report to the county administrator on requests from other funding sources. And then we'll hear from public health on their 2026 proposed budget as well. After Thursday. We'll be back on October 14 for a public hearing to hear from the public on any comments, questions, concerns about the recommended budget or presentations made by departments and offices and then, as mentioned earlier, We'll convene again. On. November 6 to talk. Through the board's decisions on each request that's been presented. Great.

2:09:59And with that, thank you guys for your time this morning.