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0:00:00So much. And we are recording. When? Asia. We're here for a meeting of the board of county. Commissioners in Boulder county. Today's Tuesday, November 18, 2025. And we are here at the third floor hearing over the county courthouse at 1325 Pearl street. All three county commissioners are present. For a business meeting, so I'm going to go ahead and call a meeting to order. And take us to number two which is our 930 a. M. Business meeting and head start division. Public meeting and then move us to item number three, which is the business meeting, and then we'll. Go to item number four, which is items to note for the record and. We've got an item for a resignation notification. From Jim Ditzel, who served as a Nywat Business association representative on the Nywat lid advisory committee. And then item four B, which is a resignation notification from Julie van Domlin. Who served as Emergency Family Assistance association representative on the family resource. Regional network and so appreciate the work of both of those folks. And those are just notes for the record, and then we'll go to number five, which is commissioners consent items. I just. Did want to note for the board that there were a couple of changes on the consent item. List.

0:01:18I was not aware of that. So. What is on our website, agenda five a through five f. Is that. That's updated. Thank you approval of the consent agenda? Five a through five f second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. Bless you. And then we will go to commissioner's discussion items, which is number. Six. Oh, and I apologize. I have a note here, and I've been holding in my hand, and I forgot to read it at the very beginning, which is an announcement that says we are streaming today's meeting through zoom only as we are experiencing some technical issues with cloudflare. Network service provider. I should have read that three minutes ago. Okay, so that's on the record. Let's see here. So let's go to commissioner's discussion items, which is number six and it takes us to 29 page an updated packet. Six a is commissioner's office appointment to the family resource regional network. Good morning, commissioners. Robin Veldis with a commissioner's office. And. Item six a. Is. An appointment to the family resource regional network.

0:02:29This is a little bit of upcycle for a designated seed as a result of the resignation. From Julie Vanderman. And the applicant is Debbie Pope, who is the current executive director. For the EFFA organization, who is part of the family resource regional Network, for your consideration. Thank you any questions? Commissioners questions? Okay, I move approval of six a second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. Thank you, Robin. And that will take us to item six b, which is community planning. And permitting letter of support for traffic circulation study by the town of Lions. And I moved this one off or requested, and somebody else may have as well, but I had requested this move. From the consent just to discussion and. I don't know if we've got anybody. Maybe Landon or else. Oh, you're? Both made it. Thank you. And I appreciate you coming at the last minute here this morning. Hello, commissioners. I'm Landon and Hilliard, principal transportation planner with the community planning and permitting. Department. Thank you. And I can just go into my questions if you'd like. Or if you. Had a short presentation. Or since you weren't expecting to be here, I don't. Know how much you planned. Okay, so board, the reason that I was wanting to have a discussion.

0:03:51About this one. In the packet I saw the butter that had been prepared. In support, but I hadn't had a discussion with anybody about it, and I hadn't. Seen the actual grant request, didn't have an understanding of what the grant was for. What the match might be and or if there was a timeline and part of it was just. To have an also an understanding from CPMP in regards to where this might fit. In the larger work plan. Just again, from the county perspective, looking at all of the asks right now. I just didn't know where this found itself and the priorities and wanted to hear. From the board about how we might make that decision and give that kind of direction. Because in the memo. It appears, the way I interpreted the writing and the memo. That county staff would be participating in outreach efforts and some of the other pieces I didn't. Have a good handle on what the work would be, right?

0:04:44That's a fair question. So for context, to start with, this is a rather simple. Request for letter of support. There's no financial contribution. That's being asked for by. Boulder county from the town of Lions. The town of Lions, again, for context, as you know, has heavy regional traffic moving in and out, and in an effort to make a more walkable, safe environment for all citizens and vis. Visitors. There's a need to have an engineering study to look at the traffic patterns. Traffic? Volume and an understanding of where pedestrians and bicyclists might fit into that. Within the course area of town of Lions. So Dr. Cog has a set aside program that allows for planning grants or planning studies, and that's what the town of Lions is requesting. Through Dr. Cog and asking for the support of Boulder county for that grant application. Okay. That's very helpful. That shares a lot more information than what was just in the packet, and so I appreciate that. I think the question I would have then is. It sounds like town of lions would be the applicant to Dr.

0:05:52Cog directly. It would just. Be a letter of support for them, but there wouldn't be an expectation of matching funds. Or need for matching funds from Boulder county. Is that correct? That is correct. There's no request or need for matching funds for. This planning study by the town of lions, okay? And would this work somehow support. Or. The bike way be coordinated into this. I'm just trying to understand. I heard travel patterns. Walkable. But is this connected to the bigger work plan and priority? Of the bike way peripherally. Yes, but the intent of the study is to look more at the downtown circulation in traffic volumes. With in consideration that we're trying to build a regional multimodal system and having the town of lions iron out. There. System will tie into the regional. Bikeway on north foot hills. Thanks. For example. Thank you. I appreciate that. Any other questions from the board. No. Okay. I hope that's helpful. And apologize, maybe for not having the context in the packet. Yeah, that's okay. And I didn't get a chance to read it until over. The weekend.

0:07:06So that's why. I didn't get a chance to talk with anyone yesterday during business meetings, et cetera. So, item six B. Okay, I move approval of six B. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. And item six C community Services requesting Human Services Fund 2026 funding cycle approval. Good morning, commissioners. Cardi Nokiama investment in contract administrator, community services department. I am here seeking approval of the 2026 Human Services Fund Funding Cycle Human Services Fund grants support nonprofits providing human services across Boater county with a focus on basic needs and access to basic needs for historically underserved communities to award funds. In 2026, we started accepting. Applications in June of this year and closed the application cycle in August. We received 50 applications totaling $2,442,197 in request. The recommendations before you are based on evaluation by a 19 member committee made up of county staff.

0:08:17From community services. Community planning and permitting human services, public health, public works, Board of county commissioners and the office of the county Administrator staff adjusted the recommendations slightly based on analysis of available funds and based on regional homeless strategy. So today I am requesting approval of the Human Services Fund 2020. Six recommendations. Allocations of $1,325,818 to award to grantees from fund 101 revenues and direct staff to execute funding agreements and distribution of funds, according to county grant program policy 9.2 D I. Am also requesting approval to delegate signing authority of Human Services Fund. 2026 funding agreements to the county administrator and or department head in accordance with policy 9.2 d, effective January 1, 2026. And of course, I'm available for questions. Thank you. Mr. Bang here to present any questions. No questions. Commissioner Saltman, questions and comments? Just the first one that caught my ear was the number that is in the approval. For the allocation, 1,325,818 is different than the dollar amount in the memo. Which is 1,323,926, about $1,000 difference. Just wondering what the difference. And sorry for not asking ahead of time.

0:09:44I just heard that when you said it out. Loud. It probably is a math error. And I'll just share it. Looks like I'm looking at page 31 of the packet. The 102 page packet. And there's two numbers on that same page, so I wonder if it was just. A typo, maybe underneath in the paragraph of introduction. It looks like there's. Yeah, we did. Make some revisions from the original memo that I had drafted. So maybe a type of or a math error. I would have to kind of double check. Okay, so I think. That it's written with the higher number, which is $1,000 difference. But obviously if that's not one of the approved grants, we wouldn't allocate it. Out like the list of grants and their dollar amounts will add up to a number, and that's the amount we're approving. Just sort of a question for the board. No, I agree with you. And I can see two. Different numbers in the packet, in the documents. I think for staff to just clarify that for the record is what I'm hearing. Your question, is that correct? That's not what I was proposing, but that would work. What I was proposing was the number, and the resolution is the higher of the two numbers by about $1,000 and so I just was saying, like, as long

0:10:59as it's clear that the board's. Giving direction that we're not allocating $1,000 that's not allocated. Through the list. I think we can give that through verbal direction, and it doesn't create an issue. Great. Thank you. And then just. My comment. I have been torn up inside about this because all of the grant applicants and we had far more applicants than we have funding available are good things like every single thing listed is positive, and we'll make the community a great place. And everybody's coming at this. From a really good place. It is such a strange time where. We just spent two months working to figure out how to put funding together when Snap benefits were provided, which is like $4 million a month of benefits to community members that they don't. Have. And there's a good reason to expect there may be another shutdown at the end of January, and we're concerned with the changes to Medicaid that are coming through, and we have so many. Community members that rely on the Colorado health plan plus or Medicaid. I'm just really concerned about awarding this funding. Because it leaves us with no contingency funding to address really urgent emergent needs in this sort of very abnormal time when we can't count on normal course of action. So I have reservations about approving it at this

0:12:13time and feel like it would make more sense to wait until February. To approve the grants and understand whether we can do business as normal and approve these really great nice to have things, or if we can't and we have to just focus on. Food insecurity and health care. So I'm really torn up about the whole thing. And I don't know that we should move forward with this today. Thank you, Commissioner Levy. Well, yeah, thank you, Commissioner stolesman, for those comments and expressing that concern. I'm thinking that. There is still quite a bit of fund balance available. That's not being allocated that. We're going to be considering possibly later this week or next week. I'm just. Wondering whether that helps with your concern. That we had projections, and this isn't actually allocating everything in the fund. I do. Think the additional state funding that we just learned about yesterday does, because I've been thinking about this since we had the meeting last week about it.

0:13:19I do think that that helps. I guess. It would help me more if I knew the board wasn't eager to just disperse that that we were going to come up with a strategy that would allow us to address emergent and emergency needs as they come up, because I do think we can anticipate the government is going to shut down again in the end of January. With a reasonable likelihood. I think that gives me comfort. If there's some agreement that we're not just going to say, okay, we got some extra funding. Let's award it to the rest of them on the list that didn't get funding. I think we need more of a plan. Than that. Yeah. Thank you. I certainly support having that kind of conversation. I would not approach the additional funding by just saying, well, we'll just give it to the ones that weren't successful. Because. They were scored and they weren't successful.

0:14:08And I do think this is going to be an ongoing thing that we're going to have to worry about. And. The secretary of agriculture or whatever the title is at USDA. Announced last week that. All Snap recipients have to be recertified as eligible. All of them? So things are in a lot of flocks right now. I do support moving forward. Because as I look at all of the grantees and the services that they provide, These also are really important for our community. Through this time. And ongoing. So I do support moving forward with the recommendations that are in the memo. And we will address with some appropriate verbiage. The dollar amount to make sure that we know what we're doing, even though it may not sound like it. Thanks for the dialogue. And it does help me feel better about this. I just to put an underscore on some of the significant concern, you know, that I sit on the agriculture and rural affairs committee and with what was just. Happened. The farm bill was extended for a year, but in those committee meetings, there's been. A real conversation about getting a real five year farm bill done, and there's significant momentum. To take Snap out of the farm bill, which is significantly concerning, obviously, to the country. Regardless of party affiliation. Because so many

0:15:47people rely on snap benefits and farmers rely on people using Snap benefits. So I would hope it doesn't go that way, but I just think there's reason for significant concern about what we have in the year ahead. So I appreciate the dialogue and I think because of the additional funding that we have from the state at this time, I think I am comfortable, but uncomfortably comfortable. I appreciate that dialogue and the conversation. That's really helpful. I want to just thank staff. For the process and reading through the memory here in the presentation again. This is a large group of folks who are looking at. This one fund. With their 19 committee group. And also, this is another reminder to me of there was more than a million dollars of additional asks in what this fund supports. And yet we have this funding in Boulder county and not all of our neighboring counties and certainly areas around this country who are also under all of the threats. In regards to the safety net are faced with.

0:16:48And so we are in a place where. We really can respond. And so I just want to appreciate all of the work that was put into. This funding cycle. And the review. Thanks for sharing about the criteria and all of those different pieces. When we talked about some of the applications and the wardies. I think for me, I had more curiosities. Around. Do people know they could ask for 70,000 versus 25,000 or 90,000? Or whatever that might be thinking about. Where folks are from a nonprofit standpoint right now. And the many asks to do grant processes and waiting for the applications and waiting to find out. And I think that's going to become more stringent here in these next few years. Just based on all of the pieces that my fellow commissioners have been talking about and you all. Who are closer to the work are hearing about and experiencing. When I look at. The list of the applications that need some of those. There's a great deal of those. I feel like that are fitting into those safety needs, the legal supports, workforce access.

0:17:56In food. In childcare. And all those pieces, to me, are also connected to mental health instability. We don't have the two point plus million dollars that were requested. We can't. Fill all those 50 applications and. I wouldn't be advocating for going outside of that process just to respond to the question. That? I think I heard you ask Commissioner Solzman and. I am in support of moving forward on these recommendations because we've got some agencies who are, I'm sure, waiting and wondering and couldn't get into. The online. Just because of our technical problems, who might be wondering today what's going to happen with this grant request. So I appreciate the dialogue, and I'm in a place of being able to support items succeed. So, sounds like we're ready for a motion to approve. Six C with just the note that. The allocation of $1,325,818 needs to be reconciled with the total that's set forth in the memo. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. Thank you. And then we will go to item 60, which is community services, and this is requesting. Worthy cause. 2026 funding cycle approval. Good morning again. Carlene Okiama, investment and contracts administrator, community services department. I am here. Requesting approval of the 2026 worthy cause funding cycle. As you know, worthy cause is a ballot. Measure that allocates zero 5%

0:19:35sales revenue to boater county nonprofit human service agen. Agencies and housing authorities for capital projects, including the purchase of land or buildings, construction, renovation and debt reduction. To award funds in 2026. We started accepting applications in June of this year and closed the application cycle. In August, we received 31 applications totaling $14,640,345 in request. The recommendations before you are based on evaluation by a nine member committee made up of county staff. From community services, human services, housing and the board of county commissioners. In alignment with providing much needed services in Longman. We added hope for Longmont to the list of recommendations, I was able to confirm that the City of Longmont is providing technical support. To this project, as well as uses of city contract with Tetra Tech, a local consulting and engineering firm Hope also confirmed that they are looking. At a different property than the. Original property noted in the application.

0:20:42The original property is cost prohibitive due to fire suppression requirements. So today I'm requesting approval of the worthy cause. 2026 funding recommendations. Allocation of $4,998,658 from the grant portion of the worthy Cos. Sells tax revenues. Fund 125 and direct staff to execute funding agreements and distribution of funding of funds, according to county ground program policy 9.2 d. I am also requesting approval to delegate signing authority of all worthy cause. 2026 funding agreements to the county administrator in accordance. With policy 9.2 d, effective January 1, 2026. Thank you, Colleen, for the presentation, for being here. Commissioners, any questions or comments? I do have a question. Still on hope. And. I'm glad to know that they're now looking at a different piece of property. The concern that I had expressed before was. Along with having a permanent home. Their operating expenses will go up, I'm assuming. And I know it's beyond the scope of worthy cause because this is just for capital. Needs. But did you have a chance to talk with them about how they're going to meet? Those additional operating costs? Yes, I did. I asked them specifically about operating, and at this time they're not anticipating any additional staff or other operating needs. They feel confident that they could provide the service.

0:22:27In the new facility with the current staffing that they have. Well, I hope they're right. I visited them one evening, and they kind of roll the whole operation up in a truck and. At the end. The next morning they roll it all out again. And this is. They'll need maintenance staff and all kinds of stuff, but. That's not really, I guess, within the scope of this. And if the transaction doesn't go through, then at least we have the assurance that the funds won't be encumbered. That was the only question I had. So if there aren't any other questions, let me get back to. I don't. Have additional questions. Just a comment. Colleen, thank you. I appreciate the update on some of the pieces. Around hope that you gave in the presentation today that we hadn't heard in our previous meeting, so that was helpful to me. So I move approval of all in favor. Aye.

0:23:22Thank you. Thank you. And that takes us to item six. E. County administrator's office, appointment of human resources director. Good morning, commissioners. I'm Janet Peterson, Boulder county administrator, and I'm glad to be here today to ask you to appoint Christine Scarlett into an Atwell position as Boulder county human. Resources director, effective December 1. And I'm going to share a little bit about Christine, who is with us on the call. Today. Christine brings more than 15 years of executive level human resources experience to the role. Most recently, she served as chief human resources officer for the Washington State Department of enterprise services. Prior to that, she was HR director in three local government organizations in Washington state starting in 2000 and. Nine. With growing levels of size and complexity, she brings a wealth of experience in labor relations performance. Management and policy development. In addition to leading various workforce equity and inclusion initiatives, Commissioner Claire Levy and I led the HR director hiring process and felt very fortunate to have a strong pool of applicants from throughout the nation. In identifying Christine as the preferred candidate, we weighed heavily the themes we heard in feedback sessions and survey responses from HR staff and others in the organization. Those themes included a desire for expertise in organizational development and culture building, racial equity, consciousness and technical. Proficiency

0:25:04across different HR functions. We are confident Christine brings this exact mix of experience combined with a personal communication style that effectively blends candor, compassion, and humor. We are really also fortunate to have some overlap in tenure between Christine and our current HR director. Julia Larson. I'll be working closely with the two of them on an onboarding plan. Along with the HR management team just to ensure a smooth as transition as possible as we welcome Christine and celebrate Julia's long. And impactful career here in the coming weeks. So with that. I am happy to ask for your approval of this appointment. If I may, I'd like to make Commissioner Levy. Sure. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. I just want to add just what a pleasure it was and an honor, really, to sit on. This hiring team. And I was doing my best to maintain a poker face during the interview with Christine. But it was pretty obvious to me, not too long into it, that she was the person that we needed here at Boulder County. As Janet Peterson said, she's got really remarkable experience.

0:26:26In a breadth of types of public entities. And what really impressed me about Christine is. Not only her grasp of kind of the detail and the nuts and bolts. Of human resources. But she's also a big picture thinker about how does this decision fit. Into kind of a larger framework and philosophy of human resources. So I think she's really going to be a great addition to our team. And jana mentioned the blend of direct communication with humor. And so I'm really excited about this appointment. Julia, not Scanlon. Julia Larson. Different person. Leaves a wonderful legacy of work here at Boulder County. And I think sets Christine up for success. Great. Thank you. Thank you for the presentation. Did you have any additional comments? No. Nice to meet you. Thank you. And I just want to appreciate the leadership from Janae and Commissioner Levy and others.

0:27:38Who were part of the conversations, and staff, too, who gave some asks about what they were looking for and what that would be helpful for the department. So welcome. Christine, we're excited to have you and have you be part of our leadership team here. At Boulder county. Thank you. So with that, I move approval of six e appointing Christine Scarlett as our next director of human resources second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you both for joining. And then welcome, Christine. I think would like to make a couple of remarks, if that's okay. Thank you. Thank you for that. I just want to say thank you. This morning gave me a little bit of angst, but I am feeling good now, so thank you very much. I really don't have much to say other than. I am beyond excited, and I'm truly, truly looking forward to my first day. The process. Was exemplary. I felt treated with warmth and respect. And I can tell that Boulder has a deep respect and care for its employees, and I wish to be a part of that, so thank you. Thank you for that. Appreciate you joining. Great. Okay, well, let's move to item six f and this one's county administrator's. Office. Also, this is real estate matter concerning North Broadway complex. And this takes us to page 43

0:29:06of the packet. Good morning, commissioners. Yvette Bowden, deputy County. Administrator. I'm joined this morning by Ryan Polarkey from the county attorney's office. About a year ago. The county purchased a building on 28th street here in Boulder to better serve the community. As consistent with your strategic priorities. That affords an opportunity to consolidate operations and repurpose other property at North Broadway complex where those services would be relocated from. An extensive process. Has resulted in receipt of five offers which you have received. More information in your packet. Late offers were not considered. Negotiations have pursued one of those offers. And today we are seeking the board's authorization for the county administrator or her destiny to execute a contract for the sale of North Broadway complex that is substantially consistent with the deal and terms set forth in the memo. The authorization. Is requested for the land officer.

0:30:16In consultation with the county attorney's office to then sign real estate documents on behalf of Boulder county necessary to close the transaction in early 2026. With that, I'll take questions. Thank you. Thank you. Any questions from the board? I have no questions. I think we all want to say something about this, but I don't have any questions. For our deputy county administrator. Thank you, Claire. Did you have comments? I do. I don't have any questions. Happy to lead off. I do want to thank you for your work. I know this has been a long process, a hard process. It's not every day that you're trying to negotiate a complex real estate. Transaction, basically under a microscope. Or maybe not a microscope. Broadcast. On a big screen. Figuratively, and I want to appreciate. All the effort you went to to make sure this process really was fair. And I know. It was hard for the community.

0:31:25To know that this really important piece of property in Boulder. Is going to change hands and it's going to have a different use and all the uncertainty that comes along with that. Plus. This 70 year history. Of the use of the property. And. It's called Marilyn Bone park. We call it the iris ball fields, but it's. Actually named after this lady that's sitting here on the front row. So. It took some time. We laid out some goals that we wanted to achieve. And one of which. For me, just. As almost 40 year resident of the city of Boulder, it really was that we preserved. That park. The playing fields. As a public entity. I felt like this doesn't need to be just. A regular real estate transaction. We need to do right by county taxpayers.

0:32:32And the public trust. But we also have to make a decision that's good for the community. And. I would have a hard time living with a decision that. Just let the whole property be redeveloped. So. I was really thrilled to see the proposal come forward from the academy. I think it's really important for the community to understand that. What happens assuming this deal closes because there's due diligence. And things can change. But assuming this deal closes, it will be in different ownership. We will have no say. On what happens to this property and that will be in the hands of the academy, in the city of boulder. To hold them to their end of the bargain, so. It's just. And I think the city has chosen not to participate in this deal. For their own reasons. But it's really going to fall to them to now live up to the expectations in the hopes of our community. Just one additional thing that I want to say about what's going to happen there in the future.

0:33:52We did express a desire for affordable housing. Something that would take this 17 and a half acre property. And contribute in some way to the housing needs in Boulder. While. Yes, we do need more housing for an aging population. I have some concerns. That the academy's previous developments have. Been really quite expensive and only available. To very wealthy people, and I hope that they're able to find some way. To have a different business model on this property so that it really can serve the city better. So that's really what I wanted to say. And mostly just thank you. For. This really long. And difficult process, and you've just let it in an exemplary fashion. Thank you. Thank you so much. So I'm very supportive of moving forward today with the proposal from academy. There are a number of reasons why this is the premier proposal, in my opinion, and why we should move forward. But before I get into that, I'll just want to back up a tiny bit about what brought us here? Because I did get a number of emails from community members, so it's. Like, why are we even talking about this?

0:35:17And so, just not to be too redundant, Of what you've already presented. But just to say. For years, even in the county commissioners and the city have been looking at how to provide human services. In a cost effective and efficient way to community members, and the site at Iris and Broadway has stood for a long time serving community members in that way, but because it's a campus with multiple buildings, it can be a little bit complicated if you're going there for benefits. Help or for public health or a vaccine clinic or something. It's kind of confusing to get around. And on top of that, It uses a ton of energy, so it's one of our least energy efficient properties in the county. The city and the county. We're studying ways to provide services to the community in the most cost effective, efficient and good positive way. And then the pandemic hit. The city went their own way. They're doing their own thing for their municipal buildings and the county still have this property. Post pandemic people work and get services totally differently and. We've seen a real decline in the need for so many square feet of office building. Space. So that's 100,000 office buildings on that site. That. We have people really effectively working from home, delivering services. In a more cost effective way,

0:36:33and so. We're simply wasting money and energy at the site. So we started looking collectively on how could we do better? What could we do to move forward? And because the economy for commercial property is sort of crummy. We were able to get a site that's a modern facility. It has many fewer ADA violations. If you think of an old historic building, it's not necessarily easy to get around with your stroller or wheelchair or walker or cane. So the new facility. Has access for everybody. It's right on a bus line. It's right on the bike path. It's right next to a mobile home park. It's in a great location by one of my favorite coffee shops. So. This opportunity to move. It provides a community with a lot of benefit. And two benefits I've not said, but I think should be really underscored are that we're able to eliminate all the methane use at the new facility with the retrofit, so it'll be one of our most environmentally friendly properties and the direction we need to be going with all our buildings in the county, and two, it will save the community a lot of money as. Far as cost to operate the facility. So we're going to be moving from 100,000ft to 40,000ft and providing a better customer experience with one centralized front desk.

0:37:43With light, airy facilities that, regardless of your ability, you can get into and out of with. Some covered parking with some service parking right on the bus line, right on the bike path. So. All those things are. Mission critical for us to provide a good governance experience for community members. So that's sort of. Why are we even talking about this when community members. Why would you even consider this? There's a good benefit on the tail end coming, and I hope when we have the grand opening of the facility. Everybody can come join us and see what our new digs look. Like so. Then getting back to this. We looked at the property to see if there was a governmental purpose, and we no longer had a governmental purpose for the property at Iris and Broadway that fits within what the county's mission is. And so when that happens, then we can relieve the property back to the community. We decided to solicit request for proposals and I couldn't be happier that there's. A community grassro.

0:38:35Grassroots effort put together to come up with a proposal that is community led and community backed. I think that's fantastic. But furthermore, when you look into the proposals, it's also the highest bid for a proposal that doesn't require us to hang onto the property all the way through entitlement. So this is really a win win, driven by the community to protect the ball fields, to get the county. A fair value, the highest value of any of the bidders that didn't. Say you have to own the property, contingent on different zoning approvals from the city, which we all know from watching. Over time. That can take years and years, and it's very uncertain, and it can result. In no zoning approval. So the bids that are higher that require us to own the property contention. On rezoning, in my opinion, are not responsive because at the end of the day, We still might own the property, and we would have to pay those energy pills for years and. Not have a public purpose for it, so it doesn't serve the community to go with those. So from my perspective, this is a win win. What the communities proposed with academy and I can wholeheartedly support it today. And then just the last piece, while the proposal from the community and the academy doesn't. Explicitly guarantee preservation

0:39:49of the historic structures. There's comment toward a good faith effort to maintaining some of the historic structures that are also very valuable and important to community members, and it's the only proposal that acknowledges that importance, and so I think that should be highlighted as well. So thank you for all the work. Everybody, and looking forward to vote yes on this. Thank you. And I'll just add some of my comments. Thanks vivet. For your leadership and for what began to feel like a complicated process. So it was helpful to hear a little bit of background and then kind of your lead on facilities for us as the board Commissioner Solzman just like, how did that even happen? And why were we talking about this? I think it's helpful, too. And I did put a couple of words together just. To share with my perspective. In regards to just kind of how we got here in the process. And for me, the primary concern of Boulder county residents that I've heard. In the surveys and the conversations and the different places and spaces in my five years has been around housing. And the work that I'll continue to focus on is about attainable housing and affordable housing.

0:40:57And a lot of the conversation here in the city of Boulder is focused on rental and that concerns me significantly because, again, My background is in real estate. I've disclosed that previously. I am a licensed real estate agent. I have a real tour designation. And so this was an odd situation. It felt odd to me. I will just say, To move away from bringing on a broker to do the negotiation and do the work. And as board of county commissioners, we also have the authority to dispose of a property, and so just the change of process. Made it a little bit more complicated to me, and I'm also able to, in my role as a county commissioner set up here on the dais with my fellow commissioners and review. This deal. And really looking at.

0:41:46A purchase contract for sale on land that county owns. If we believe it's a good deal and a benefit to the county and, of course, constituents. For me again. The primary vision could have been and in my opinion, should have been. The opportunity to look at this parcel. For the county, whether it was employee housing or affordable housing or some type of attainable housing. And all the things that we're working on in different places. And I also understand and had conversations with staff and our Boulder county housing Authority team that because we are. Right now working on and in about to start phase three of a really significant project. For that net. Zero housing complex that will have a homeownership component. As the first homeownership component for BCHA. There's a big commitment and a lot of resource happening over there, and so that group just felt like that would be very hard for us to be managing something like a greenfield development. Over. Here in the city of Boulder. And so I understand. Sometimes the timing is not the right timing. But I just want to express that because I do feel like ten years from now or 15, years from now. We have the city of Boulder and our opportunity. As a significant employer, will be affected by this decision to not focus on

0:43:14and not come together. As a board in regards to how could we address that need of housing on this particular parcel? For all the reasons that. Some of the other factors that are playing into right now, the impacts of the need. To. Address this commitment that we've made for what will be a new Boulder hub, and that will also. Be a great opportunity to serve residents. In a more energy efficient building space. It's also near one of our head start facilities. So there are definitely some great factors about the impetus in my mind of selling this property to address the other facility needs and service needs that we have. As a full counter. I also just want to note on that for me. From a housing development and project proposals and potential. I don't get excited, and I don't look for FIA and Lou because I feel like that doesn't actually solve the problem that we're trying to solve, which is housing units. We have a crisis, housing crisis, inventory crisis everywhere around the state of Colorado. And so putting money off to the side for me, just. Doesn't meet the actual opportunity. Immediately. In fact, it will move that requirement to a different group of folks down the road. In a path that tends to be filled with excuses and also realities of funding.

0:44:55Folks at the table partnerships, financing, all the things. That we're seeing now in lifetime and in really significant ways that can hold a project. Up. And so that is my concern. And. I also acknowledge that there was a lot of work put into that. For these deals. And so I know it's important, but it's just not where. I prioritize, I will always prioritize. Getting units built to meet the needs of folks. When we have that opportunity. I do want to acknowledge, too, there was a recent news article here. From another housing authority in the city of Boulder in the last couple of weeks. That was highlighting their now 2000 rental units in the city of Boulder. And so again, for me, That is not homeownership. That is not a path to generational wealth. It is not a path to true financial literacy in a time where we have a federal administration that is asking consumers to take on. 50 year mortgages as a response to affordable housing in a place in Colorado where this community tends to talk about mobile homes as affordable housing. It just feels like a missed opportunity. And that's, again, just coming from. My personal experience, but I do think that.

0:46:13As, let's note, I think as Commissioner Levy talked about, the new purchaser will have an opportunity to work with community and with the city of Boulder to determine how they meet community. Needs. And what they work on. So I think for me, Let me make sure there wasn't anything else I wanted to share. That. I also want to acknowledge that 2025 has just been a difficult year for everybody. And we have challenging times coming ahead that we were talking about earlier in this business meeting. We have to focus on federal impacts, reduced revenues, increased costs and so many other items. And so for me. That's part of what pushes away from a real opportunity with this particular parcel, but. I do look forward to future projects where we can take a greater role in. Ensuring the future of homeownership for residents who live and work and study and are trying to thrive in Boulder county.

0:47:10So those are my comments. And hopefully we'll give a little bit explanation about why I'm not supportive of the north bodder complex purchase at this time. Okay. So thank you for being here, and I appreciate all the comments. I move that we approve item six f. I'm happy to. Second, there is a little direction that is written up for us to read. I don't know if we need to read that or not. I looked at how six f is worded and I thought, It really incorporated that. But I'm also happy to read what the direction that's requested, which is a motion authorizing boulder county to enter into a contract for the sale of North Broadway Complex, located at 1333 North Broadway to the academy, which I assume is the actual name of the entity under the. Terms negotiated in good faith by the parties and authorizing the county land officer to sign associated real estate documents on behalf of Boulder county. Second. All in favor?

0:48:13Aye. Opposition? Nay. Thank you. And that's item six f. And so that will take us. To. That will take us to item seven, which is authorization for executive session. Good morning, commissioner. Natalie Springt. Commissioner's deputy for this item, I'll request that you all are seated as the executive directors of the BCHA board. BCHA board. I am here to request authorization for the BCHA board to go into executive session on Wednesday, November 19 at 09:00 a.m. Pursuant to CRS 24, 6402, subsection four f personnel matters for the annual performance evaluation of Susana Lopez Baker, the executive director of the BCHA board. I will make that motion. I'll just note that that was not on the agenda. Yes. Apologies for that. There was some communication back and forth this morning. And this item was accidentally left off, okay? I move that we go into executive session as stated. Second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you. And then it looks like we're moving to item number eight, which is scheduling and communications. Item eight a is a transgender date of remembrance proclamation. And it looks like we've got Mark Lester. Welcome. Hi. My name is Theo Ross. You can turn that down. And I'm Mark Lester. We're both representing Rocky Mountain Equality today. And for those listening, we are an organization based in Boulder and working throughout all

0:50:03of Colorado on advocacy, programming and other services to make sure that the LGBTQ keep us community. In Colorado has the tools and opportunity to thrive. And before I hand it back to co, I just want to thank the commissioners for taking the time. To commemorate trans Dave remembrance. It really means a lot to us in our community. I'm Rocky Mountain. Equality is trans programming and support coordinator. And just a few words about trans day of remembrance. It's a time to remember and honor the trans lives lost this year due to violence. And while it is a time to grieve, it is not just a day for despair. It is also a time to recognize the value of our lives. I grew up in Greeley, and as a kid growing up, it was a long time.

0:50:50Before I even knew the word trans. I first moved here for college and have since had the opportunity to become a part of the strong trans community here. An experience that has been truly invaluable to me. I am grateful to now live. Somewhere that sees and values the trans community. Particularly so right now, when there are some who would attempt to dehumanize and systemically erase us. I hope that as we grieve those we lost this year. We can continue supporting trans lives now and in the future. Thank you. Thank you both for being here. We're going to read together. Our proclamation. Yeah, and I have the honor of leading this off. And this is stated, a proclamation recognizing transgender day of remembrance. Boulder county affirms its commitment to honoring the dignity, identities and lived experience of all members of the Boulder county community. We recognize that transgender and nonbinary people are an integral part of the social, cultural, and fabric of boulder. County. Transgender nonbinary individuals also continue to face disproportionate levels of discrimination. Bias and violence, threatening safety and wellbeing. Each year, on November 20, people around the world observe transgender day of remembrance.

0:52:07This solemn day honors the memory of those whose lives were taken by acts of antitransgender. Violence and reminds us of the need to protect. The rights and lives of transgender and nonbinary people. Boulder county supports fair and equal treatment of all people, regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity or gender expression, on this year's transgender day of remembrance. We encourage all residents to reflect, remember and recommit to creating a world grounded in equity, understanding, and. Love. We, the Boulder County Board of Commissioners, therefore proclaim November 20, 2025, as transgender day. Of remembrance in Boulder County. Thank you, board, for sharing that item number eight. And that will take us to item number nine. We would like to make one minor modification to a previous action that related to North Broadway. Okay. I was going to say get back or get closer to the mic, if you have any. Additional words. Go ahead. Okay. Thank you, commissioners.

0:53:07My name is Ryan Miller Cam assistant county attorney. I just wanted to clarify for the last item we had about 1333 North Broadway. Commissioner Levy, when you made the motion. You said that you assume that the name of the buyer is the academ. Academy. I just want to clarify. We have known them as the academy throughout the entire process. They've identified as such. They referred to themselves as such. But their actual legal entity name. Is abmg, llc. So just wanted to make sure that's clear for the record. Would you like us to reopen the record and make another motion with the proper legal name? Yes, let's do that. Motion to reconsider. And could you say the name again? Yes. Abmg, llc. Okay, let me get back to that. Motion. I'll make a motion to reconsider.

0:54:04Six f second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. So on six F, I move that we authorize Boulder county to enter into a contract for the sale of North Broadway Complex located at 1333 North Broadway. To. ABMG, LLC, LLC, under the terms negotiated in good faith by the parties and authorizing the county land officer to sign associated real estate documents on behalf of Boulder county. Second. All in favor? Aye. In opposition. Nate, thank you very much. Thank you for bringing that back. All right, so that then takes us to item number nine, which is our public meeting on head Start division monthly report to the commissioners. And that takes us back to item 49. Or, I'm sorry, page 49. Thank you. Good morning, commissioners. Akani Ogren, division manager for Boulder county head start. Good morning. We're ready when you are, a comed. Thank you. I'll start with. Item number one, meal service. Meal service for October was 6660 meals delivered from the Boulder Valley School District Food service office. Total meals served 4888 based off of attendance, the meals. For cost was 19,147 50, with the CACFP reimbursement at 14,470 613. Making the cost to the Boulder County Head Start program 4671 38, the average since the beginning of the school year. August through October.

0:56:36Is 37. 64, 29. Dollars, again, related to attendance, which is item number two. Attendance for the month of October, 20 days of school. In October, Dagney was at 75%. Woodlands in Boulder at 73%. Mapleton and Boulder 90% with the average attendance again August through October at 79%, and that is mostly due to. Illness, just sort of the beginning of the school year. Illnesses that ran through the program. That we are still dealing with. Today. Moving forward into program enrollment. Again, available slots are 110 based on the funded enrollment from the office of Head start. And. We are currently still at 109 as. We have one family that is still going through the enrollment process, putting together their paperwork, physicals. Things like that in order for them to fully enroll and start the first day with their child. And the graph there below it just shows that. We've just hit a steady enrollment number at 109 out of 110. The report that I initially sent. To the commissioner's last week. I didn't have updated budget figures, and I have since added those in here. For you all. Reconciliation having been done through October. And so we are still holding at a projected deficit of 139,000 at the end of the fiscal year in June. And so that graph there is available for you now. I apologize.

0:58:25It wasn't fully prepared. By the time I had to submit the report last week. I'll stop there in case there are any questions. Doesn't look like there's any questions. Thank you. Okay. And then I'll go. Into. Regularly reporting on monitoring the government shutdown. That the regent eight training and technical assistant team. Is now returning to work, which means that coaching and support for our head start staff will resume. I actually have my first meeting with them. Very excited to welcome them back on Friday, and so. We will put in a plan of action for continuing the work through the rest of the school. Year. The Dagney playground incident from October 1. We still have not received. Communication from the office of Edstart. About that submitted incident report and so. That status is still pending. And then. I am on a daily basis monitoring. The notice of funding opportunities in that competition. Grant application still has not opened yet. And so I'm on standby for that particular. Grant application. I'll pause there if there are any questions. No questions right now. Thank you. Okay. And then I'll move into our school readiness goals. In October. Baseline teaching strategies gold, which is an assessment tool that we use. The data from that assessment and our class scores provide the foundation for developing our evidence based school readiness

1:00:14goals for our head start program. TS gold gives us a clear picture of children's growth across different developmental domains. While the class observation tool. Helps us understand the quality of our teacher child interactions that support development and growth and relationship building in the classroom. So by analyzing trends and needs from both data sources, Priority areas were identified which align directly with the head start early learning outcomes framework, otherwise known as elof. And this ensures that our goals are not only rooted in children's actual progress. But also connected to the research based domains and subdomains that define high quality early learning. So. The three school readiness goals that were identified based on the data. The first being goal one. Social, emotional. Children will strengthen their ability to form and maintain positive relationships with peers and adults.

1:01:17The second goal being children will expand their expressive language by engaging in back and forth conversations using new vocabulary to describe experiences and effectively communicate needs with peers and adults. And the third goal, children. Will enhance their use of number concepts and operations by verbally counting to 20. Quantifying objects and connecting numerals with their quantities. And so below it is the data that informed the identification of those three goals. And that's from TS gold. And then also the class observations. I don't know if you want me to read through all of these, but I can. Basically go to example, strategies that the teachers will be implementing and leadership will be implementing across all sites. And so for. The first goal. Which. Is strengthening. And positive relationships with peers and adults. Example, strategies that might get implemented would be model and narrate emotional language. How children are feeling, giving them the language, the words to express how they're feeling. Implement predictable routines and visual supports to help in a different way. Help them express. They can point. If they can't actually verbalize the word that they can point to a specific feeling. Those are two examples.

1:02:44Goal. Two children will expand their expressive language by engaging in back and forth conversations. Some strategies utilize a variety of storytelling strategies to model language, puppetry, storytelling, flannel boards are just like little figures that there might be a story and the flannel sticks to each other. And there will be boards again. Visual. Representations of stories. Allow appropriate wait time for children to respond during conversations and group discussions. This one's this is a big one where children don't immediately respond and they take some time to think. First before they might then want to engage in a back and forth conversation. And then third. The third goal number concepts. And operations counting to 20 and some strategies here. Use counting and quantity language during transitions and routines. And that can be in the form of, along with safety children. Counting how many children are in the line.

1:03:46We have 15 children today. Are all 15 children here? Let's count together those. Kinds of things. Asking open ended math reasoning questions and use real objects and hands on manipulatives to match numerals to quantities. So those are different strategies we're putting in place. And then there are two additional checkpoints that will happen to monitor our progress on meeting those. Goals. In February and then again in. April May. So I just wanted to give you an update on work that's actually being done in the classrooms. Thank you. No question. I really actually appreciate that you put this detail in the memo. Just head start is head start. For a reason. Let's give kids a good foundation. When it's time for them to be in kindergarten. It's cool for me. Just to see. This very methodical and intentional way of developing the skills that all of our kids need. So fun. That is the end of my report. I was just going to ask if there was anything else. And thank you. Some of the updates that you gave right in the middle of that presentation were just helpful to hear and appreciate you bringing this back from some of the questions that I had. Previously. That was all I had. I didn't have additional questions. I do have one additional item. That actually isn't on the

1:05:16report, but I just thought of it when you were speaking. About the snap benefits and. That was we received the program received a $10,000 donation from a fund. In connection through the YMCA, and that $10,000 was distributed in King super gift cards. To our families, our snap families. About two weeks ago in order to bridge the gap of any loss of Snap funding. And so 43 families were given gift cards for about $240 each. That's great. Thank you for that. You all are doing great work. Thank you. Thank you so much for the update. That was item nine. Commissioner Z. Ready? Yes, we are. Thank you. Thank you so much. And we are recording. Thank you. And we're returning from recess. To ten to item number ten, which is our 01:00 public hearing on McDonald family care. Accessory dwelling unit. I just want to check in really quick with staff. I wasn't sure. If I needed to read this statement again in regards to the technical issues that we had this morning or if that's been addressed. And resolved in the recording. Hi. Chair Lo Chamin, this is Brianna Barber, Commissioner's office staff. The issue with the Cloudflare network service has been resolved. Thank you for asking. Okay, great. Thank you. So we'll go ahead and proceed here with item number ten. We're on page 53 of the

1:07:24packet, and we have a staff here that's. Going to help us in a presentation around this docket, and then our applicant is here and. If there's anybody joining you online, just let us know. Reminder for any speaker just to get close to the microphone when it's your turn. And make sure you state your name. For the record. We'll hear a presentation from the applicant, and you'll see the timer up on. The screen. And commissioners may have questions for both staff and then the applicant. This is a public hearing, and so we'll have an opportunity for anybody to speak here. In the room. Specifically to docket Lu 25. And we'll also invite folks virtually, so we'll make time for that. And then there may be some questions from staff or commissioners based on any public comment, and then we will. Hear from you, applicant, at the very end, you'll have the last word before commissioners were being asked to make a decision on the stocket today, so we'll have discussion. Deliberation and reach a decision. So that's our plan. And so I'll go. Ahead and turn it over to Pete Lorange for. The presentation. I didn't ask if there were any disclosures from the commissioners, and so. I should do that before I turn it over.

1:08:34No disclosures for me. I have no disclosures. Thank you. Thank you. And I don't either. Okay, Pete, it's your turn. Thank you so much. Thank you. Commissioners Pete Laranj. Community blending and permitting staff. This is docket Lu 250 zero. Eight, McDonald family care accessory dwelling unit at three seven six JJ Kelly Road. The applicant is. And owners are. McDonald Sky Family Trust, represented by the applicant. Here today, Daniel Lynn. With in context, architecture was their agent. Property is zoned agricultural. It is 7.7 acres. It is a legal building lot through a subdivision exemption in 2019. There's an existing 2826 square foot residence, a 515 square foot greenhouse and a 900 square foot equipment shed. This is a limited impact special review request for family care that should be family care accessory dwelling unit in the.

1:09:30Equipment shed structure. Here's a vicinity map. You can see it is just west of lions. Location map a little bit closer in. Ariel. The comprehensive plan map with areas of very high biodiversity significance and rare plant areas and a small section of riparian area towards the northwest corner of the parcel. Elevation contours. Map with 20 foot contours. And then the geological hazards map indicating some debris flow, susceptibility area and rock fall. Susceptibility area in the northern portion of the parcel. And then public lands. There is county open space to the west and then that designated other open space. Is landowned by the city of Longmont. This is the narrative as submitted by the applicants. But just to summarize, they are asking for this family care accessory dwelling unit for a 95 year old great grandmother who has reached the point of needing care and assistance with daily activities such as bathing, cooking, medications, all that sort of thing. Got it in here. It's also in the staff packet for any questions. Here's the site plan.

1:10:53On the left is the full parcel, and then on the right. Is the zoomed in section. With the existing residents circled in green to the north and then the equipment shed where the proposed Abu. Is circled in orange. Slightly further south. Elevation submitted by the applicants, including proposed colors and materials. And then just the other sides. Floor plants estimated by the applicants. The blue hashed section. On the bottom of the floor plan is the section proposed for the family care accessory dwelling unit. Site photos this is kind of at the corner or bend in JJ Kelly Road looking up into the parcel. You can see the light green equipment structure there. And then another view of that. And at the entrance to the property, looking up towards the main residence. Closer view of that. This is just to the side of the equipment shed where the proposed parking pad is looking towards. The adjacent parcels.

1:12:12Roughly to the southwest. And just a view of that. This is the side that would remain agricultural in use. The other side. In terms of referrals. This packet, this application, was referred out via the standard procedures staff. Received responses from the agencies listed there, and those are summarized in the staff packet. Staff also received a response of no comment, no concern from the Boulder county historic Reservation team. Staff did not receive any responses from the agencies listed here. And then notices were sent to 35 nearby property owners. Staff did not receive any public comments on this docket. Looking at the LU criteria, looking at the most applicable, starting with number one, except as otherwise noted. The use will comply with the minimum zoning requirements and will also comply with all other applicable requirements. In this case, family care adus are allowed in the agricultural zoning district if approved through the limited impact special use review process. The structure does meet all setbacks. The property. Is currently under their maximum allowed RFA. So should the ADU be decommissioned in the future? And the applicants wish to have it approved as RFA, they would still be under that maximum. Allowed residential floor area for the subject parcel.

1:13:41In addition, there are additional provisions for family care adus and looking at some of those. 4516 H five a may be detached from the structure provided is closely clustered with the principal resident. In this case, it is detached and it's separated by about 100ft. But staff find that as they are reusing an existing structure along an existing driveway, It's really consistent with other development patterns on the parcel, and staff finds it meets this. Provision. B. The accessory dwelling is limited to 700 sqft in size. The applicants are proposing the ADU at 700 sqft. However, in the plan submitted for the application. The floor plans show a doorway between the Adu and the agricultural section. In order to ensure that the ADU remains at 700 comply with fire code requirements from lions fire protection district there.

1:14:41Can be no communication between the two sections and it will have to be fully rated. Separation wall between the two. Staff inform the applicants of this, and they have no concerns about that. They are more than willing to do that. So staff recommends that as a condition of approval that plants emitted for permitting show that complete separation and with that, Stefan, that this provision would be met. C. A separate entrance to the adU is allowed, but only one entrance to all dwelling units. May be visible from the front property line. As explained in the staff recommendation in a little more detail. Technical read of this parcel, it does not have a front property line because it does not front on a public right of way. However, looking at the spirit of it coming from the driveway entrance, off of JJ Kelly into the property. You can only see one entrance. The entrance to the proposed Adu would be minimally visible. Coming up on JJ Kelly and then the house is set much further back and the entrance to the residence is not really visible. From there. So staff found that this provision was met, and then. D the owner of the property owner has to live on the property. The applicants are the property. Owners and live there, so staff found that this provision was

1:15:59met. As such, staff found that criterion one as conditioned was met. Moving on to criterion three. The use will be in accordance with the comprehensive plan as noted earlier. The comp plan identifies rare plant areas and very high. Biodiversity areas on the subject parcel. And the proposed building is located in those areas. However, Staff finds that as this is an existing building, There's really going to be no further disturbance to those areas. Additionally, it's right on the very edge of the very high biodiversity area. So Stefan found that there would not be any adverse impact to those areas that's supported by the referral response from the natural resources planner, who found the same. In addition, the comprehensive plan housing element policy Ho 3.5 notes that the county will consider accommodating more housing. In defined areas and circumstances by providing opportunities for well designed, attached, and detached accessory dwelling units with limited impacts on the county's natural resources and transportation infrastructure. In this case, as discussed, staff finds that there will be essentially no additional impacts to the natural resources and. As outlined in the staff recommendation packet. Staff also finds that the proposed ADU will not have any adverse impacts on the transportation infrastructure. So staff finds that this proposal is consistent and in keeping with this policy. Therefore, Steph finds that this criterion is

1:17:35met. Jumping to number nine. The use will be adequately buffered and screened to mitigate undue visual impacts. This is an existing structure. It's very low profile. It's very. Minimally. Visible impacts overall, and staff don't have any concerns about that. However, we did note some non compliant exterior lighting during our site visit, and staff recommend, as a condition of approval, that all exterior lighting be compliant at final inspection. In this case, because we have so few visual impact concerns and because there is such minimal lighting. Both existing and proposed staff found it was not necessary to require a full lighting plan. Rather, we just recommend that at final inspection, all fixtures meet the outdoor lighting requirements. So with that. Staff recommends that the board of. County commissioners. Excuse me. Conditionally approved docket Lu 250 zero eight McDonald family care Adu. Subject to the conditions outlined in the staff recommendation. And I would just note that we discovered a typo this morning that there were two conditions.

1:18:42Four. So they were misundumed, but. All of them are. Correct. It should be eleven instead of ten in total. And I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Thank you, Pete, for the presentation. Any questions, commissioners? No questions. Thanks, Pete. No questions. Thank you. Thank you. The only question I had. Let's see here. I've got a couple different items. Open. Was in the packet. Of course, I'm looking at the full packet for today's activity, so it's. Like the second to the last page. Of. This particular docket packet. So it's 100 to me. Or 101, I think, is what it is. Lions fire protection. District. There was the referral response in there. So I just wanted to ask a question. And you may have talked about it or might be. In one of those conditions, there was just comments. I'm asking stuff. But the applicant you have an opportunity to respond to just to. Find out.

1:19:44I read that as kind of a beware consumer beware type of statement, but. I didn't know if there was any other conversation in regards to. It was noted in there around. Design should consider stated mobility limitations of the occupant. But they were talking about. What is described as presence of hazards in the agricultural shop portion of the unit. So I just. Wanted to ask if there's any further discussion or analysis on that item. Not really on that item. However, not in specific. However, having. The full fire rated separation between the two with no internal communication, no penetrations, no doors, no. Windows, nothing like that. That does provide. That sort of safety buffer between. Any hazardous elements in the egg workshop and then the residential portion of the structure. Okay. Thank you, Pete. So no additional questions for staff from the commissioner, so we'll go. Ahead and turn over to applicant. Just a reminder to state your name for your presentation. And you're. Welcome to start.

1:20:50I don't actually hear. Your microphone. I can hear you. Just because I'm close to you. Talk to somebody. Okay. There we go. Okay. Thank you. Hi, I'm erin sky McDonald. Owner at three seven six jj kelly road. I guess I'm going to show you a slide show. You get to meet Ruth and. The family and I'll go through the intended use here. Much of it is in the packet that I sense. Who? The county. But I'll go through it with you guys. This is Ruth. She is our grandmother, but she's the great grandmother of our teenagers. She successfully lived alone up until now. The natural physical deterioration of aging, severe osteoporosis, memory loss and challenges with sight. And hearing have proven she needs immediate and continuous. Care. Including companionship, health with household tasks such as cleaning and cooking, transportation and driving. She does not drive or on a vehicle anymore. Finances. And paying bills. And.

1:22:13Personal hygiene and then medical transport, medications, administration and so forth. So her daughter. My mother in law. Terry Simone. She's a retired registered nurse. It's currently living, whether or helping her. In southwest Florida, and together they're selling the home to relocate to Colorado. And Terry plans to move with her concurrently to help. Provide the care and the medical attention. The immediate proximity of our family will help facilitate. The necessary and continuous care, companionship. And assistance with all the above tasks, as well as medication monitoring, maintenance, mobility, memory care. This arrangement promotes her well being and security. Ease of financial responsibilities, access to adult enabled body drivers. And providing peace of mind for all of the family members. So more on the project. A lot of this is going to be redundant, but I'll say it anyway. The limited impact special review under Boulder County Link use code 4601 outlining the purpose and design of a proposed accessory dwelling unit intended to provide current and ongoing family care for our elderly. Relative, a mother, grandmother and great grandmother. That is leaving her home now due to immediate needs of oversight and care. The Adu will be located. On our property. Ensuring. That there's support and proximity while maintaining the character of the surrounding area. It is built on a permitted, proper slab foundation. With appropriate footers.

1:24:06It is a steel I beam structure engineered and constructed for current and appropriate weight, loads and wind. Speed. No new building or additional square footage or external changes. Aside from windows and doors. Will augment the structure. I'm using. The same sketches that he had. Of what we intend to do, more or less. And yes, we understand the condition of. The door that is located at the top of. This hatched area. It will be a proper firewall with no communication. I suppose we intend to have extra wide doors, lower counters. To assist with mobility. As well as grab bars around the bathroom, walk in, zero entry shower. For Ruth and the wheelchair or the walker? That is going to be approximately 700. We're going to try to maximize. What we can do with 700 sqft. It might come in a little less, but we're. Going to try to maximize it best we can. Other way.

1:25:37And so the balance. Will continue to be the agricultural shop. It'll no use will change there. The only changes to that space. Is probably a new entry door. And. Rolling garage door type instead of the sliding doors, which. Are not very energy efficient currently and let a lot of mice in. So we're going to try to nip that in the bud at the same time. Let's see here. Okay, this way. So this is the south side exterior of the Adu. This would be. The entry point for Ruth. And. This is as simple as we can make it without altering it too much. Pretty straightforward with the windows and the door. And then there'd be skylights on either side. To bring in natural light. All dark, sky, compliant fixtures. Possibly an awning. Or just something. To go over the doors and windows for rain and snow.

1:26:59Not a covered porch, so to speak, or anything of that nature. Other way, so this is just. A general sketch of the interior, kind of a studio layout. We'll see. How this plays out, but there's not a whole lot you can do in such a small space, but ultimately, this would be the living and bedroom space for Ruth. Again. Lower cabinets, lower shelves. Just to make it easier for. Her ability. She's lost a foot with her osteoporosis in the last decade and a half. Okay, so this is the east side. A couple of skylights, that's all that's. Going into. The exterior here, and then this is the west side, and it'd be just one. Of those skylights. This is just reiterating the ADU accessibility considerations and enhancements. Single story layout wider doorways, grab bars at the toilet. And when the shower, the zero entry shower, and then lower counters and shelving. The existing structure. Let's see here. This is really just describing that. I understand.

1:28:28Everything within the code. And what's been described to me. In my architect, Danielle. We are going to minimize the visual and environmental impacts while adhering to the criteria of the limited. Inspect special review. The unit will be situated. Within an existing accessory building and will not affect the character of the existing property and the surrounding neighborhood. The addition of the doors window skylights will complement the existing primary residence. Utilizing similar materials and color palettes the ADu. Will be approximately 700 sqft, as I stated. The existing metal architectural structure is approximately 1200. Caretaker would be seven. This is redundant. Which will count towards the RFA. In the event of the decommissioning, I believe. It will be situated in a manner that preserves existing landscapes and minimizes disruption to the neighboring properties. No new grading will be required to accommodate the ADU. An existing parking pad just adjacent to the structure. This is not in here, but there'll be a ramp that goes from it and around.

1:29:54To the front door. For a wheelchair or a walker or what have you. The footprint will not be modified. The structure has its own electricity and gas. Currently, we will need to bring in. Water. And integrate into. The septic system. Which. Is actually just. In front of this building. And to the east. So just in front of the parking area. So it's very close to a tie in. Yeah. So this is just to show. The dark. Sky compliant exterior features. Look very similar to what we have. If possibly a different style, but nonetheless, it'll be dark sky compliant. The building is currently the same color as our home, and we would freshen it up with a new coat of paint. To be the same color scheme. Of the house likely. Use some of the metal roofing accents the oxidized metal. That we have accenting our house and then put in in some flagstone patio. At the entrance, that kind of thing. All right, so. This is just a bit on the agricultural use. This is the mess that it looks like right now. But. We need the agricultural space. To continue to farm. And utilize.

1:31:46Our land. As sufficiently as possible. So it will continue to be just that, just. With a different square footage. Their culture shop will house the gardening equipment, tools, soil, seeds, counter skates for prep cleanings. Food storage in conjunction with the onsite greenhouse. An exterior farming beds and livestock. These functions will remain. In the northern partial portion of the metal building. Yes. No access. We understand. So this is the north side. This is the agriculture use. It's not changing the layout or the openings at all. It's simply replacing the current doors that are there. So it have. A new half light entry door and then. We would replace. It. It's sliding metal doors currently, and we would try to seal that in and maybe do an overhead. Glass garage door to add light. And seal it up. For the critters. Here's just some more photos of our land. There's our pyrenees. Our guard dogs, they take their job very seriously. The greenhouse. And our chicken coop.

1:33:17We now have. 30 new hens, which is great. It's quite fun. Additional considerations, conditions and compliance. Just to reiterate, we understand. What peat and the staff have, and the code suggests. And also what the fire chief. Has offered. With the automatic fire sprinkler suppressant system, designed and installed in coordinates to the NFP 13 D and the ICR section. That will definitely be planned in. Build smart energy. Conservation requirements and Colorado solar ready code. Again, the dark sky. Compliant exterior lighting fixtures, ignition, ignition resistant construction and divincible space required by. The wildfire Partners program. And we just did that to bring it up to speed with the greenhouse permit. But continue to do that. Around this area. And then, of course, reveget. Any areas that are disturbed. That's pretty much what I have for you guys.

1:34:37And thank you for your time. Thank you for having me. Thanks for the presentation. Thanks for being here in person and giving a little more background about the docket. Any questions? Commissioners for the applicant? I have none, thank you. No. That was very comprehensive. I can't think of a thing. Thanks. Thank you. I did have two questions. Maybe. One was when you were showing us some of the pictures of the property you were talking about. Skylights. Oh, yeah. And I was just trying to understand. Why skylights? Why? You were using the word skylight, and it might just be the way. I'm interpreting it. This is easier to see. Do you see? How it's kind of trapezoidal shaped. It'll come up here on the screen, I think, in just a second. Okay, yeah. And instead of trying to build out. And shore up. A vertical space for windows. Functional windows. A skylight could be put in at this angle. Cheaply. With the same effect for natural light. Okay? That's why we used skylights, okay? Do you talk about skylights on kind of that angle, but then also just what looked like. Windows. And the reason I'm asking is sometimes the concern is around if the house is going to become a beacon, the way that lights might reflect off to others. And so that was just

1:35:59what I was listening for and just trying to understand. But hearing what you're saying is that skylight is maybe more functional for. The actual material. And the sighting of this house is what I'm hearing. Yes, exactly. Thank you the other question I had, and it was on your slide about existing structure. And while you were talking. You said in the event of decommissioning, and so I just wanted to understand. What that meant for you. Sure. So, as I read the code, To report to you guys each year. That the use of the family care unit is consistent and continues. And route's 95 years old and Terry is 74, and the intention is that they live with us. For the extent of Ruth's life and then for Terry to continue because. She has her own conditions. Metabolic syndrome, chronic fatigue, immune disorder, and PTSD. But in the event that. The place sells. It's not going to meet. The family care use. That was where the decommission would come into play. Unless laws change in that period. Of time. So that's really why I brought it up. Just thinking ahead. Okay. Well, I heard you. Say it, so that's helpful to understand. And I just wanted to make sure I'm. Understanding this application is specific to Ruth and the story that you shared in your narrative.

1:37:41Okay. And then the other question I just wanted to offer, because I had asked the question about the referral comments from the li. Lions fire protection district and didn't know if you had gotten a chance to review that. And it had comments on the design. You're talking about the fire suppressant system in cyst turn. No, they were actually. Talking about? The second to last page of the packet that was talking about from the fire prevention specialist, the presence of hazards in the agricultural shop portion next to the living space. So I just wanted to ask if you had gotten a chance to look at that and had any comments about that. Well, to reiterate, There'll be a fireproof wall between. The two spaces. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Those are the questions that I had. Are there any additional questions? I'm going to have a question for Pete, but I can wait until after public comment.

1:38:41Okay, great. Then we do have a public hearing, so we'll go ahead and open up. The public comment section. I don't see anybody here in the room to speak to the docket. And it doesn't look like there's anybody that's signed up, so we'll go ahead and close it in the room portion, and then virtually, we don't. Have anybody signed up on the list, but we'll just give 30 seconds in case somebody. Was waiting. To hear when we got to this portion of the hearing. The phone number for anybody that wants to participate in regards to this docket, which is the McDonald family care accessory tolling unit. The phone number is 833-3568. Six, four. And I don't see anybody joining, so we'll go ahead and close the public. Comment section for this hearing. Staff, any comments. No additional comments from staff, but happy to answer any questions. Thank you. And commissioner Levitt sounded like you had a question. Yeah, just a question on. That last comment from the applicant. On transitioning to a different family member in the future. In that unit, and I was just wondering. Whether that we require. A new process and hearing to determine whether. It still meets the criteria for family care. Unit. The code does not speak to that one way or the other. It simply says that

1:40:21it has to be for a family member who is in need of or is providing care to another family. Member. From a practical standpoint. With the yearly reports from the applicant. I think staff would be able to monitor that and. When that change comes about, we can look at it. And one of the provisions of the family care is if there are substantial changes. Then it's considered a substantial modification, and it would have to come back, so. Staff could review that through the annual reports. And if we determine at that time it's like we don't think it meets that. It can come back for. Another review at that point. Unless the regulations change between now and then, obviously. Sure. Okay. Yeah. Just to be aware, it's. Not an automatic approval. Of having your mother or mother in law together. Be eligible or live there and have that be eligible to be a family care unit.

1:41:26Okay. Thank you. No additional questions. Okay, so, applicant, any last words that you have for us before we go into discussion? I don't think so. I think I covered. If you guys have any questions for me? Happy to. It doesn't look like we have any additional questions for you. Thank you for being here. For your presentation. And so. Who'd like to get us started? We're going to just move into discussion, deliberation. We're being asked to make a decision about this pocket. I'm happy to kick us off. If ever there were a situation where somebody needed care, and it was obvious that they did, I would say this. It's amazing she made it to 95 living on her own. And Pete did his usual, very thorough job in reviewing all the criteria in the code and analyzing them and providing a recommendation to us. So I am fine with moving forward with the recommendation and the conditions as proposed. Thank you, Mr. Sulfman. Thank you. I support. The perspective in which the staff analyzed it. I appreciate the staff working really hard on this, and you for bringing it forward through the process. And oftentimes we'll hear from community members. We would love an Adu for our relative that needs care, and it's like, you can do that, so just. Thank you. For working through the

1:42:47process and showing how it can be done. Thank you, Pete, for the package and the materials and updates. In regards to no additional public comments received. Sometimes we'll get them right the morning of. And applicant for you being here and sharing a story about your property and your plans, and I think that was an important clarification, Commissioner Levy, just to make sure the applicant's aware of what potential processes. And so I think that's always good to just do upfront. And have there on the record as well. I don't have concerns with the analysis. I agree with what staff has provided in regards. To the eleven conditions. That were in the packet. And so I think for item ten, I will go ahead and move that we conditionally approve. Docket Lu 25. Eight the McDonald family care Adu subject to the eleven conditions that are in the packet for today's hearing? Second. All in favor? Aye.

1:43:47Thank you. And so we don't have any additional items on our agenda today.