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0:00:05We are recording. Good morning. Today is April 28th, 2026. This is a meeting of the Board of County Commissioners of Boulder County. We have commissioners Lochimin and Levy present in the hearing room and Commissioner Stolssman is excused. So we will start with our business meeting. And first is just an item to note for the record. And that is a resignation from our aging advisory council Bob Magin, who is a representative from Lafayette. We will next move into our consent agenda, which is 5a through 5L. We have a motion. No for approval. Second, all in favor. Aye. No, we have a discussion agenda. And the first is our new communications policy. And we have Allison Eklin with us. Good morning. Hello, Alison Eklund Communications Division Director in the OCA. Before I start, do you all have the red line version? We did, thank you. Well, just thank you, Ask, for coming back this week. I have received two different documents. So as long as the two that I'm supposed to be looking at Section 10 policy, one is Section 10 procedures. And there should be, the red line version and the clean version. Okay. Okay. Great.

0:01:41Thank you. So I am here to present a new communications policy, Section 10 that has never existed before. So we're moving two existing policies, social media and language access under that new communication section 10 so that may have been confusing. It created a lot of red lines by doing all that movement. But really, it's just codifying existing guidance like brand guidelines style guide, website style, Spanish glossary, things that have existed in different areas, especially on BCNet and putting them all into the policy manual. There are two new policies that's the advertising policy. Which says we don't advertise third party events unless the county is a host, co - host, sponsor, or co - sponsor. That's a question that comes up periodically. And it also says that we don't advertise fundraising links, which comes up usually following disasters, unless authorized by the County Administrator. And a good example of that is following Marshall Fire. We, of course, advertise the Boulder community foundation. The second new policy that's in there is media relations. And that is just directing all staff who might get media inquiries to their communication staff first. And that staff will coordinate it in a timely manner. Keep those relationships with reporters. Um, and that you don't, and you are not supposed to respond when a reporter context you just let the communication staff

0:03:24help coordinate that with you. Those are the two new things. And I think that covers all of it. Great. Uh, any questions or comments for Allison? Yeah, thank you. I did. I had a couple questions. Maybe I could start on the, I'm in the procedure document, it looks like. And Section 10 and that first paragraph. I was just trying to understand as I read through both of the documents. The BOCC, The Board of County Commissioners spoke about in some areas of the document. In this 10 point 01 communications procedure, it talks about and elected. Offices. And so I was just curious because my understanding is that elected offices may have their own policies. So it just, it was just a curiosity to understand how this would relate to other policies. Is that in the first paragraph, first section? Yeah. 10 points, zero one, communications procedure.

0:04:31And the very last piece, it's my understanding that elected offices can choose. Which policies and procedures. They follow in which ones they don't. So my intention was to have that in there for the ones that choose to follow. These policies. But if they don't. I mean, I'm fine with either way. I thought it was up to them. It looks like you've got some help maybe coming up from the back. You really spring at Commissioner's Deputy for the record. I know about and I are probably going to make the same statement here. Um, but, uh, as per all of our policy and procedures, um, elected offices are able to opt out and draft their own policy, um, in accordance with the policy. A majority of our elected offices follow the county's policy and personnel manual. Um, so in lieu of them opting out and drafting their own policy, these policies would apply. Exactly. Good morning, Yvette Bowden Deputy County. You may need to be closer to the mic to, great. Thank you. Good morning. Um, exactly.

0:05:42Uh, Yvette Bowden, Deputy County Administrator. That is true. And we would be happy to accept a friendly amendment there of, unless otherwise documented by elected officers. Thank you. I think because of the way it reads is this procedure applies to all Boulder County Staff and then it gives a list at the very end. It says elected officials. And I don't argue with what you're saying because that's also my understanding. But if I was a staff member who was going to the procedure manual, I would think this applies to every employee or contractor, et cetera, throughout the entire county. And I don't think that's true. And based on what y'all just said, it's not, I don't need to do wordsmithing right now, but I just, from the parts of this talk about transparency and ease and understanding and that is the beginning of that part of the document. So that was just a, and I guess I would ask, I've got one other commissioner here this morning, if you feel like there's an opportunity for some changing, but I'm not suggesting we do words with me right now. Yeah. No, that's a good catch. And I, and I heard, uh, our deputy county administrator propose a friendly amendment to that language. And that seems appropriate to, to make that clear. Um, that friendly amendment could be

0:07:00a little more concise, but you'll, you'll, you know, you'll make it clear that it's elected offices that have elected or opted to follow County policies and procedures. Right. That is correct. And I want to also thank you commissioners. Remind you that you can change the procedures at any time. It's just policies that come before you. So thank you. Great. Yeah. That's great. The other question I had was on that same page. It's under letter B, an applicability. And it was just for me to understand too, the way that I read this, the first bullet point is Countywide Staff Communications. And so I'm thinking, is it true then if a department's doing their own newsletter or their own social media, their own something, then it's all these rules don't apply. They should apply, um, but you're right. This applicability is intended for Conniewide messaging. Okay.

0:08:04Let's see. There was a question I had under 1. 2. It's that same document's roles and responsibilities. And this was similar in regards to letter B department leadership and oversight. So it was kind of a connection to that first question. If elected officials are truly part of this document, then it seemed like department leadership says in here on number one, uh, letter B number one, Department of Heads and Supervisors. But if elected officials are applicable, then it seemed like that might be appropriate if that is supposed to be also elected officials. Um, and then I was just curious on, maybe let me see if it's the same one. It's under the social media looking at my notes and not the document. It was just trying to understand the social media policy that's in here is all current policy. It's just moved into here. Yes. That was section 6. 70. We're just moving it down to section 10. Okay. And there's, I had a question and I'm just not seeing it in the document under social media number six. And I was just trying, when I'm reading through that whole list of the 11. Number six for me just reads very differently. It says when posting a county accounts as a county representative, you should always consider whether it is appropriate to post an opinion online,

0:09:30commit your department to a course of action or discuss areas outside of your expertise. Whereas the other one through 11 are like, do not do this. You must do this. So just read very differently. And it felt like maybe if it was aligned, if the has happened and you want to avoid it and make sure it doesn't happen again to just use number six in the same type of language, does that make sense? Continuation in which number are you talking about? I'm on social media. Uh, it says number and it's red line 6. 7 out and it says 10. 02 in that same document on my version, which I know is not always the same version. Everyone else has. It's page two of nine. And there's a list of. Policies to identify the criterion conditions.

0:10:25Which number is. And in that list, it's number six out of number six. Oh, okay. It just feels like it opens it up. If I'm telling a staff person, you should consider if this is a someone is going to say it was appropriate if we're saying, should I give an opinion? Someone's going to feel like free speech they have an opinion. So it just felt like if, if there's something you're trying to avoid or make sure doesn't happen again, that might've just been the way to interpret it. If we could be clear and have the language similar to, I think this one was the County Attorneys had advised removing it. So maybe that wasn't clear in the red lines. It was hard to show what was actually deleting with so many red lines. But, um, I think it was meant to be deleted. Okay. Number six. Number six. Okay. The version that I have, which is the fourth version that I've received of these documents, but the one that got sent to me again yesterday.

0:11:27Is just all red, but it's not crossed out. Yeah. So I could be reading things. It's hard to tell. I think, yeah, that one was meant to be deleted. Okay. Perfect. Thank you. Those are the questions and I appreciate, um, coming back. I just, I couldn't, I can't, um, approve documents if I haven't been able to read them. So I appreciate you coming back this week. Of course. Great. And I just, uh, I believe caught a typo in the procedures document. Yeah. Uh, 10. 2 social media you refer to the county's official website as a dot org, which should be a dot gov. Yes. Thank you for catching that. That's changed in my version. I was hoping you had that version. Oh no. Uh - oh. Okay. Well, okay. So you found that. Yes. Thank you. And then this, I mean, when I, when I was reading it the first time and I didn't have the whole context for it, um. Policy 1. 1, I guess is the numbering applicable standards. A required adherence. Must follow. Guidelines when creating approving or sharing internal or external communications. And when I read that, I read it as sharing communications that may have been, may have come originated from an external source. Like a repost or something like that. But then taking the broader context,

0:13:10I see that that was intended to be communicating externally. So I don't know. Just a flag that's not super clear. There might be a way to just make it clear that was in policy. It's in the procedures. 1. 1a, the introductory sentence. Sharing communications externally. You could say sharing communications internally or externally. Okay. That's in procedure. Yes. Okay. Are you under required adherence. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Okay. And otherwise I didn't have anything. Thanks. And I had one more question. I apologize. I was flipping through my documents again. It was under the, well, let's see. Heritan. I'm in policy. And it's letter. Well, no, maybe it's not letter C. Letter D. Accessibility equity and language access. I was curious in the second sentence there. It says communications must reflect the county's commitment to equity inclusion and respect. And I was trying to figure out if the opportunity might be to align with policy 1. 06 there. I don't typically hear us talking about equity inclusion and respect. For me has a really, uh, different potential meaning. And so I just, I was curious where that came from because that's just not the language I see in other places around the county. Okay.

0:15:02That's also a pre - existing policy. That's the existing policy ten and the draft is just to move it further down under the new communication. So. I'm just looking for it. It's letter D. Thank you. Second sentence. So as your edit to remove that word. Yeah. I mean, the communications must reflect the county's commitment to racial equity. Or inclusion or aligned with policy 1. 06. I just am not used to seeing that kind of language, but it could be like you said, it might be from an old, an old policy from a different time. I guess just to discuss that, um, between the two of us and Allison, I read this as being broader than racial equity. So I wouldn't, I don't think we should narrow it to adhering to policy 1. 6. So the, so that it's broader. I think the issue about respect here is. It's respect for what. Because respect alone doesn't really, it doesn't mean anything. Um, so it's hard to know, um, I mean, what we're saying, you know, we respect the laws. We respect each other. You know, they're just different. Respect. Alone isn't a word that communicates what we're trying to do. But. You'd be open to just changing communications with must reflect the county's commandment, equity, and occlusion. I think I'd like to give Allison and

0:17:06the folks that are working on this an opportunity to refine that rather than just delete it. Because I think you're by putting that word or keeping that in as you move to the policy. I think we are trying to do something different than equity and inclusion. I think we're trying to communicate something else. And I think we just need to maybe refine it a little bit. So I don't think, I wouldn't want to just delete it. I think we just need to say a little bit more about what we're respecting. Are you understanding that concern? Yeah. Yep. I can take it back. Okay. I know you want this to be done and adopted. But it's, you know, never asked three people to edit something, especially, uh, in public on the dais. That was the last question I had. Thank you. And thanks, Alison and your team. Thank you. So this is, we were just discussing the policy. And remind me policies are amended. Here comes Yvette. Wanna make sure we stay on track. Yes.

0:18:35At any time the commissioners can amend the procedures, policies come before you, um, once annually, but they can also come quarterly or as a result of any time by board direction or as a result of legislation or litigation. So we are happy to bring this back. As a matter of fact, I happen to know we have another one coming back in May under BOE. And we can bring those both at the same time. If you like. Okay. So we'll do, we'll try one more time. To get where we want to be. And I think we've commissioner low chamean and I have been able to share our comments. Commissioner Stolzman is excused. I trust that she shared any comments or questions ahead of time with you. Yes. We have those and we can come back with that. Great. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Good. And, um, we need a table that item or just leave it.

0:19:26Okay. Thank you. I saw a head saying, no. So what do we need a motion to table or to continue it to a date certain? Natalie's bringing commissioners deputy for the record. No need to take action on this item today. OCA staff will schedule it, um, for a date certain at a later time. Okay. Thank you. And since Commissioner Lochiman and I have had the benefit of hearing the dialogue between the two of us, uh, and we haven't had the benefit of Commissioner Stolssman's comments, um, perhaps if you feel comfortable, you might share those. I don't want, you know, if you feel like you got, you can't take direction from a single commissioner. So I don't know whether there were things that she had brought up that Commissioner Lo Sheman and I might want to discuss. Good morning again, commissioners. You've had Bowden, Deputy County Administrator. There were a couple of things that we're happy to respond to that were raised previously. First, following the, there was a curiosity about the timing of this coming forward. Um, this policy ten is a result of conversation that the board had with me during a Public meeting, which was a PMI on February 9th, 2026 to bring these matters forward as one policy. Following that board interest, we reviewed it by the County Departmental Communications Group elected

0:20:59and Department heads, um, this has been or will be presented doing a supervisor support call in May. We can do that as a draft before it comes back to you. It would just reinforced by the commissioner's deputy, for communications. Um, via an all employee email and will be available for all employees once it is finalized via the intranet. I also want to point out because there was curiosity about whether or not employees had an opportunity to, uh, contribute to the policy manual. Since 2024, I'm proud to say that the county has ensured that all, um, employees are allowed to propose policy manual changes. That's an annual process that comes before the board. Usually in the fall as part of our annual update at Talana Rettana is in the building and helps with that process to make sure that employees have that opportunity and we will continue to do so. If this policy comes forward before the board and you agree, it would take effect in May instead of November because it is an off cycle board, uh, suggestion. And again, that is by the board or as required in a rising out of litigation or applicable legislation. Those were the questions that were previously asked.

0:22:17That was the only feedback we received. Happy to do so again. Um, as part of your next packet. Oh, that's fine. I just didn't want you all to be responding to requests for amendments or rewording or anything from a single commissioner that the two other commissioners hadn't had a chance to discuss. So it sounds like there was, there was nothing, um, of that. Not substantive to the language now. Thank you. Okay. Good. Thank you. Then, uh, I think we're ready to, uh, take up item six B. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you, Yvette. Thank you, Allison. And thank you, Natalie, for your work on this. And this is a resolution designating seasonal County personnel to enforce county regulations governing the use of County OpenSpace, which we do every year when we get new seasonal employees. Welcome.

0:23:06Good morning, commissioners. I'm Aaron Hartnett, senior Park Ranger with Boulder County Parks in OpenSpace. And I'm here to ask you to grant the authority to three seasonal rangers. Um, the Authority to enforce the rules and regulations that govern, um, public use on County Parks and Open Space Land. One of our, um, seasonal rangers is not here today. That's Tina Curran. Um, she is not starting her season for a couple, another couple of weeks. But today we have Brennan Bushman with us in Jasmine, Nelson Oliveri. And Brennan, this is his second season with us. Um, he did such a great job last year. We were happy to welcome him back. Um, and then Jasmine, this is her first year as a seasonal park rate Boulder County. Jasmine has a PhD actually in a college from CSU and is most recently worked with the Girl Scouts of America doing community engagement. Um, so I just wanted to introduce you to them and to ask you to grant them their commissions limited commissions. Great. Thank you Commissioner Archman.

0:24:12Any questions or comments? I don't have any questions for you. I appreciate y'all being here. And I got to meet Brennan out in the hallway, but I hadn't got to meet you at Jasmine, but had heard about your ecology background in a meeting with open space of folks who are excited. And we're glad that you're both here. Um, and all three of the new folks to be able to do this really important work. And Boulder County residents and visitors love, uh, open space and the trails. And so I'm hopeful that this season is positive on for both of you and for the third person who's not here, Tina. Thanks, Erin. Yeah. And I also want to, well, welcome you back and welcome you, Jasmine, for the first time. And hopefully not the last time. But, um, I'm quite an avid user of Boulder County OpenSpace as our hundreds of thousands of others, both Boulder County residents and residents of the state of Colorado and visitors, international. We get a lot of visitors. And you are the face for them of Boulder County out on our trails, not only keeping people safe, but answering questions, uh, gently encouraging people to follow the rules. I love your background as a PhD plant ecologist. You know, you might be able to answer some questions about what is this

0:25:34plant and why is it here? So, um, no, just really appreciate your service to all the visitors to Boulder County OpenSpace. Uh, so we do have resolution 2026 - 027 that we can move at this time. I'm happy to move for adoption. And I will second that motion, all in favor. Aye. Aye. Thank you. We have done that. Thank you. And that, let me get back to my cover page. Brings us to the end of our discussion agenda. We now have confirmation of executive session. Good morning, commissioners. Nase SpringHet Commissioners Deputy for the Record on item seven. I'm here to confirm that the Executive Session topics that were noticed at the April 21st, 2026, regular business meeting of The Board were discussed as scheduled. And since this is a note for the record, I'm happy to move us to item eight, which is a request for authorization, uh, for Executive Session. Commissioners, I'm here to request authorization for the Board of County Commissioners to go into Executive Session on Wednesday, April 29th, 2026 at 1 p. m. Sorry, my computer restarted person to CRS - 24 - 6 - 402 subsection 4B Legal Advice regarding the following topic. Possible regulation of air pollution from buildings.

0:26:56And I'd request a vote on this today. Okay, we need a motion. Uh, thank you. I was just listening to what you said and reading that language. And I, my interpretation of the topic is a little different. But if that, the possible regulation of air pollution is the language that the attorneys are suggesting. And that was just my interpretation of the document in preparation for the Executive Session was a little different. Do you want, well, do you want to say what that is or you think of this is not the right way to describe it. I think, I mean, the CRS, I'm not in question about, but it seemed as though the regulation was talking about the electrification buildings, not necessarily just air pollution. So I just wanted to ask that question. Oh, thank you, Commissioner Lochiman, for the question. The legal advice in the conversation tomorrow is specifically around the regulation of air pollution.

0:28:00So I believe that's the way, uh, why it's titled as such. Okay. Thank you. I'm happy to move that Executive session and authorization forward. Okay. Second, haul in favor. Aye. Aye. So we will now sit as the Boulder County Housing Authority Board of Directors. And invite our housing authority personnel up. We will have our regular monthly meeting. And. We'll have a little. Change here. We've got the presentation all loaded up. Great. Thank you for confirming that. And so I will call us to order. And again, sitting as the Boulder County Housing Authority Board of Directors, uh, we do start with any matters from members of the Public that would like to speak to us this morning. Um, Brianna, do we have anyone here that has indicated they'd like to speak. Hello, Chair Levy. At this moment, there is no one signed up to give public comment during this hearing. Okay. Thank you. Then we will move directly into our Executive Director's update. Welcome Susanna. Thank you, Commissioner Levy. And thank you, Commissioner Lodgeman, for being here today. Um, we have quite the robust PowerPoint I was telling staff that, uh, this is my favorite presentation.

0:29:41I think we've ever created. There's a lot of chances for you all to engage. So I'm excited. And I know we're on a bit of a time constraint. So we'll keep it brief, even though it's my favorite presentation we've created. Next slide. We'll do our part as well while also doing our, our role as, uh, members of the board. Thank you. Next slide. Um, like I said, we've got a lot to cover. So I'll jump right into my director's update. Um, a couple of things I did want to touch on was the, um, we'll start with the top. So with the federal updates, I just want to let you all know that we're continuing to track federal changes. Um, we had previously talked about the mixed status, um, proposed changes that were open for comment.

0:30:25Uh, the comment period has ended last week and they are as over 8, 000 comments largely, um, not in favor of those proposed changes. So now we wait and see whether or not HUD will in fact adopt those changes. Um, I have not heard anything yet, but I will definitely keep you updated, um, as you know, we do have families that, um, potentially could be disqualified from the program under the new roles. So we're watching that very closely. The other, um, big proposed changes that are currently up for open for comment are the, um, work requirements and term limits on vouchers. It is not a mandatory program. So it is optional whether or not Public Housing Authorities participate. Um, so I think that's in a way good that the repercussions are, are minimal. I have been meeting with the other local housing authority directors. And right now we're all in agreement. We should just be tracking who in our portfolio may be impacted by a work requirement rule because we're a little nervous that although it's not mandatory now, that doesn't mean it won't be mandatory in the future. And or if we do not participate, um, it is unclear on whether we will be eligible for additional vouchers or funding opportunities in the future.

0:31:43So we're really looking at who would be impacting our portfolio later today Kelly Schulz will give you a breakdown of some of the data that we have already, um, we're also looking at what programs could adopt a work requirement, uh, with the right supports in place. Denver has done a lot of really great work. And they've shared a lot of that with us. Really centering around self - sufficiency. If we're going to do a work requirement program, it has to be realistic that families will be self - sufficient. So as you know, the FSS program, which we have here used to have work requirements, um, we're looking at what that might look like if we were to return to work requirement model in that programmer, other programs. And so we'll look for you in the future to help us make that decision. Any questions on federal things. Um, yeah, I, I'm trying to digest what you just said. Sure. And it sounds like you are open to considering a work requirement. You as the director, I think that that would be quite a major policy change. Sure. And that will want to, as the directors of the housing authority really have a lot of conversation about it. Absolutely. Um, I guess I'll just put my cards on the table and say I start from a

0:33:05place of not favoring work requirements. Okay. And for many reasons, which I don't need to share now, uh, but I think if, if you feel that you want to explore that, I hope that we will schedule time to have thorough conversation about it. Absolutely. Yeah. Good. I think I'll just add in there. Thank you. Good morning, everybody. I think having, did you share the read that you're having conversations about what would happen if a work requirement became not optional for the PHAs. And I would just making it, but I'll just say it now. I'm wondering about what and workforce Boulder County is not here. So the question for them and their capacity. But in kind of this, what might happen and so how could we present some of that information or just share some of that information and start getting on people's mind in case it was to become a requirement. So that's the service that we already have and we can offer. Thank you.

0:34:06Yeah. And on that note, we are talking to workforce on the housing department side is sort of just starting to understand what that model might look like. Um, so more to come on that. Uh, I do want to also note that the president's budget for FY26 was released. And, um, there are major cuts. Again, being named two HUD, um, last year that happened as well. And those cuts didn't come to fruition. So we're hopeful that, uh, The additional budgets that will come out throughout the year will be more favorable to HUD or at least status quo, which is what we saw this year. Um, finally, I do want to note too that national Narrow is leading a lot of advocacy on some of these proposed role changes. Um, which is very comforting for us. So we don't have a heavy lift. And it's something that we're talking about at the National Level pretty regularly. All right. I do want to talk a little bit about just some state updates. So we did have a meeting with Tyler Jackal regarding the EHV strategy. You may remember that EHV voucher's emergency housing vouchers, which were instituted shortly after COVID. Um, are expiring earlier, much earlier than we all anticipated. So the state has over 400 vouchers throughout Colorado. Not very many impacting Boulder County, probably about 50

0:35:25vouchers across the county. Nonetheless, the state has requested funding to extend their voucher until July of 2027. So we wanted to meet with the state to just understand what that meant and what their plan was over the next year. Uh, we also want to be helpful. And if we can absorb some of those vouchers or assist in moving some of those folks onto different programs we wanted to have just open conversation and dialogue about that. So we're going to stay connected with the state, um, right now we are sort of looking at it in tears. We have our own folks that we need to transition to vouchers. We have 29 emergency housing vouchers within BCHA within our voucher program. So throughout Boulder County. Um, so we're going to prioritize those families. And over the next year, kind of start looking at what we can do to help the state. So it was a great meeting.

0:36:18We'll be looking to see what's the best approach for all families that have or our households that have EHV vouchers. We have a pretty good mix of families and individuals with EHV here in Boulder County. I have a question about, so you were, you said the state is seeking funds to extend the EHV. Insecure advanced, correct? Would that be federal money or is this a state legislative appropriation of some sort? Legislative appropriation. Yes. Is that in the long bill because that, that long bills basically done. Yeah. That's my understanding. They have secured funding for another year. And they have already let families know that households know that. Okay. Great. Thanks. Yes. Some other good news on the state side is, um, last week Tuesday. We were approved by the state housing board in the way of 2. 5 million dollars for Wilby Corner's phase three.

0:37:20And so you'll hear more from staff about that, but we're really excited. Um, that really does secure all funding needed for the first 40 homes. The home ownership side of, of the project so that both of the chaffa drive at home funding and the state housing funding will be paired together to ensure that those costs are as low as possible. Let's see. We also did have a Woolby corner engagement, community engagement event. One for residents and one for our larger community around the neighborhood. And it was really great. We had 40 people total come to the event. Um, but on the resident night, we served over 150 meals. So that was really exciting that people were coming out to eat. They didn't really want to, they didn't have much to share. Um, largely, but I will say the families I did had an amazing questions gave us a lot to think about. We're able to kind of start strategizing more of our, um, recruiting approach when we start, uh, looking to open a wait list and things like that. So they really helped us understand what was on their mind. It was a good, it was a really nice event. Susana, if I could just ask you maybe even one or two examples of what those types of questions were from residents. Yeah. They were

0:38:36wondering, um, particularly around the financing opportunities, like what should they be thinking about now and today sort of what AMIs were we looking for? They were asking questions around whether or not there would be a priority for folks who live there currently, especially our older adults. They had a lot of questions about accessibility of the units. Like, are they one level two level types of things? Things that they were looking for in a home. They were excited because they want to own a home or they previously had. And now maybe missed that. And so they were sharing a lot about what that would look like. And, you know, how big were they so they can see if, you know, an older child of theirs can move in with them or what that might look like.

0:39:17Thank you. Yeah. And then let's see Nairo. I just want to note that Colorado Narrow conference is in Pueblo in May. And I know Commissioner Richman will be joining staff at that event. Also I had my first national DEI meeting. I found it really productive and inspiring. It was really great to hear how others nationwide are advocating for some of these proposed to had role changes and what they're doing. Um, also on the EHV approach, how they were collaborating with the state, um, it was really interesting to hear just how robust they and creative there being with the state in terms of swatch, swapping out vouchers. So it gave me a lot to think about with our EHV approach now that we know we have another year to work closely with the state. So it was really good to kind of hear some of those strategies. Um, particularly from Delaware, they're doing a lot of really great work. And then I just also want to note that, um, several BCHA and housing department staff, uh, attended together the local government, Hispanic network, national conference, uh, through Juntos, Colorado. It was held in Westminster. So we just got lucky that it was in our own state and we didn't have to travel. Um, so a large group of us tended together. And, um, we had a

0:40:37lot of really great takeaways. And it kind of was just energizing for us as we come back and really think about how we can implement some of our race equity goals throughout the year. Any questions on this slide. I don't have questions, but I just, I really appreciate the different opportunities that you're supporting staff to participate in to learn, like you're saying, and just to be in conversation with folks doing different types of work to get some ideas. I just think that's, it's great for the department. So thank you for that. Thank you. Yeah. Um, Suzanne, I don't have any questions. Um, I, I would find it helpful to, in your director's update, you know, to have a memo from you about the topics that you're going to covering, recovering just because, you know, if you are sharing something that could be, you know, a major shift or something we need to follow, just to know, you know, as I prepare for the meeting, what is the content? You know, from, you know, from this, like, you know, when I go back and look at, well, what do we talk about in our April meeting?

0:41:48It's not going to help me. And I try to take notes, but I can't get it all. And so it would be helpful to maybe, um, have this accompanied by a memo with the points that you're going to make. And I, and I know that's a little more preparation work, but I, but it'd be helpful, thanks. Yeah. No, and I can share my notes that I have as I prepare for this. I have like all the things I want to talk to you about. So it would be easy for me to. I know you've prepared for me to do that. I do want to touch on one other thing that's not on the slide because it happened later in the week and I couldn't get you that information, but I did send an email regarding the structural and environmental issues that were noted at Cottonwood.

0:42:26We were working on it, but I just wanted to see if there were any questions that you had. And if not, feel free to email. Well, I'll just, your memo did ask us what direction we wanted to provide. Are you not planning to bring that up today later on in your presentation to get the direction? Well, the memos, uh, said that what our approach was going to be. And if there was any disagreement or if you wanted us to proceed in a different direction, then I would like to have here from you. But again, I can hear from you via email as well. Um, I did hear from Commissioner Stortzman who just asked that we check in with Oscar to make sure that we're not missing any opportunities to partner. And we have done that.

0:43:10Okay. Yeah. I think to again, we'll receive Commissioner Direction on a different approach. It would take two. And we do like to have that in a forum in which we can provide that direction in public rather than by email. I was, I'll just say, you know, I was fine with the direction you were taking. Because I think that's appropriate. But I think it'd be good for all three of us to weigh in on that. Great. Um, yeah, I mean, I guess the question is just if you're wanting to have some conversation about it, or I heard you offertase on it just to go by email, which I think is fine unless you get three emails with three different. Pieces. I think that's the question of how you want to be able to get back and make sure that you've got more than one person supporting.

0:44:01Yeah. So from your comments, you're fine with the approach that they're taking of doing the full remediation. I thought we were going to be talking about it today too. So I read through it, but I didn't make a decision on anything. I'm happy to talk about it. I have the MR in front of me. I don't have it in the packet though. Like I said, it didn't make it into the packet, but I didn't want to delay the release of that. Um, but yeah, so we know that we've got to do some structural work. Option one is the priority, which is about a 2. 5 million dollar remediation work. Um, We do believe that that would solve or resolve the core structural issues. Um, option two would be to wait and really look at a larger development or redevelopment of the project that those dollars are closer to 25 to 30 million dollars and we don't really believe that that's the best approach. Although over time it would largely solve the issue. Um, of course we could always sell the property. As you know, we've done a disposition in that neighborhood of other BCHA properties.

0:45:04It is something that staff talked extensively about, but that is losing 36 deeply affordable homes and long mutton. So staff really does not recommend that. Either. And then of course we can do even minimum, more minimal repairs and kind of as they come up like we did this. We had one unit that was really largely impacted. It has been remediated. What we don't know is how long it will last that larger HVAC work will still need to be done at some point. So we could continue down that road of just when it pops up, fix it. But like I said, we do believe that the core structural issues could be fixed with a 2. 5 million dollar repair. Thanks for that. Thanks for sharing a little bit more on it on the number one path that you just spoke to at the very end there, that 2. 5 million dollar. I think that's the best option, um, waiting and thinking about number two right now, just knowing what we have in front of us as far as major projects. Um, seems like it would be a bit to be able to consider that. And the issues that are described in the memo are in my, from my perspective items that have to be resolved. They will not get better. In fact, they might get worse

0:46:15and contaminate more, make it harder to do remediation. So, um, if we're going to have that conversation, I think what you've presented here and the reasons that you've described on number one makes sense and appreciate the stuff's conversation and work that you shared about. So yeah, and as I said earlier, I concur your recommendation. So I think you've got that clear direction. I do wonder, you know, just something to think about. Um, older properties like this that you don't really could use a thorough renovation. Uh, you know, we can put it into a LITAC and bring in some additional money. And because we've owned this for a long, long time, um, you know, my, might it be appropriate to, to try to put it into a LITAC and get some new money in and do a much more significant renovation. Yeah. Definitely had a lot of conversation around that. But yeah, so we can continue to look at that and sort and sort of where it might fit into our larger pipeline, which we will, we do want to bring for further discussion later, probably next month at the end of May. I'm just sort of where our pipeline said. I think we haven't really shared that larger picture in some time. So, but we can definitely have the conversation to see where it would

0:47:32sit. But I believe you're right. That would take maybe a number of years for us to secure that funding being that will be cornered. Top priority right now. And we'll be working on that for at least two more years, if not longer. So that's basically the approach that staff was making. Um, of course all of this does depend on our funding source, which we won't know more about, well, we should know about hopefully the end of this week, but that's our last little piece of the puzzle here is really having the flexible dollars to be able to complete the 2. 5 million dollar renovation. And what were you thinking was the funding source? There was a reference to Oscar, but not so not for the full 2. 5. There's two funding sources that we believe are available. Because of the energy upgrades, um, Colorado Office of Energy would probably allow between 6 to 800, 000 dollars. And then we've also been working in a rebite program, um, it's a program because of all of the environmental work that we have done over much of our portfolio. We are a lotted some rebate funds. And so we just don't know how much those funds are. We are hopeful that they're in the 6 million dollar range.

0:48:45And those funds come back to the housing authority and we can do whatever we would like with those funds in terms of reinvesting into new energy projects. So that's our hope. We're like, haven't signed. I have not signed the document yet, but documents are being prepped. So we are, we believe that that would be the best funding source. And it's just really timely. To be honest. So great. Thanks. All right. Well, the next step is development updates. Morning commissioners, Michelle Alexander, Deputy Director of Housing. And let's see Susanna did already cover some of our updates for housing. It's been a really busy productive month for the development team. Willoughby Corner phase two way. We did have the community engagement and tenant opportunities, which was really great. And Suzanne mentioned we had a bigger response to our tenant meeting. And really they were inquisitive about the homeownership. So we got very few questions about our multifamily housing, which was a little bit of a different conversation for us to be. And we outreach to about 346 residents in the neighborhood, 800 square foot radius.

0:49:57So we did a pretty significant outreach for that. We did have a QRB survey that reflects strong agreement with 2A and 2B aligning with community priorities. And phase 3 design meets expectations of our community. We continue with the CHAPA 9 percent application. We submitted that in February 2nd, 2026. And we've been invited to present that project. So we're excited that we might be in the finalist for the CHAFA funding. Will it be corner phase 2B? We continue to work with the City of Lafayette for sketch plan approval. And that's going to be needed for our four percent application that we plan on submitting in August. We have not heard back yet if that is going to be approved. Any questions on those two. Thank you. I think the only question would just be if the deadline connected to the response back from Lafayette. We would need that by August, the response. If they were willing to write that letter or not. And if not, then we would have to change gears and look at possibly doing a four percent non - competitive, which would be a completely different funding agreement. Okay. Thank you. The last we heard from one was Friday. So we are hoping that we hear from them this week. Okay. That's great.

0:51:22Thank you. Uh, willoughby Corner phase three home ownership. As Suzanne mentioned, we received the AhOP funding award from the state. And we had our kickoff meeting with them yesterday. So they're moving really quickly on that one. So the funding source for the home ownership is the aha hop. Our traffic drive at home and all of our local resources, which we plan on having the RPA spent down by Q4 of this year. This will help fund the 40 modular homes with the zero energy star rating construction. And coordination with the City of Mafia. I just want to note that the state is really embracing their 90 day, um, funding agreement process. They're really trying to get all contracts done in 90 days. So they're right on track. We got to order it on Tuesday. And I think our kickoff meeting was less than a week later.

0:52:10Yeah. It was impressive. Uh, Kestrel over in Loisville, we have our pre - application meeting set for that property on April 30th with the City of Lewisville. And we have no zoning changes on this one. We remain consistent in the adopted zoning for that property. It'll be 14 units with seven duplexes. I know there was questions previously on this one. Thank you. I don't think I had the previous questions, but I just, what you just said was different than the way I read it. On that last line, the last bullet point. So it is the plan is to stay with the 14 units that are, that include seven duplexes. Correct. Okay. Thank you. Uh, yeah. So we submit all the materials. All I've been accepted with no request for corrections at this time. So we'll let you know how that presentation goes next week. We're accessing the eligibility for scattered site funding, which would be 77k a door at this property. And then additional funding being sought for the rest of it. The town of lions. I'll move on to seward updates. Town of lions, it's Prop 123 goals with the, um, with bother County housing authority acquiring this property. They're the second, the jurisdiction to actually meet their goals. So that was really exciting for them and for us as partners. And on that,

0:53:39we do intend that Boulder County will meet their prop goals with all of our development and rehab work done by BCHA this year. Could I just stop you on that since we're meeting with the lions Board of Trustees tomorrow evening? Oh, nice. Um, so, so they are the second community. I forget the first one, but I know, um, but stomach County was the first time. Yeah. Um, I know on the CCAT meeting somebody was celebrating. Yeah. I just couldn't remember who it was. But just in terms of sort of, you know, the county's role in helping lions meet that and thereby be eligible for additional funding. Which projects contributed to meeting that goal for the town of lions, it was seward. Just sewered by itself. Okay. Um, okay. You only needed 14 units to meet their goals and see what happened to be 14 units.

0:54:39So BCHA wrote a letter saying that we will keep this affordable confirming for the state that we will keep this affordable. And that allowed them to use those 14 units to meet their goal. Great. Okay. Just wanted to make sure I had the facts on that. Thank you. Sure. Uh, our rezoning for Seward was approved on April 6th, which would remove any barriers for future entitlement at that property. We are starting to plan our community antenna engagements to understand what the community wants to see and we're need in that area. So we will invite you to that if you want to be a part of it. It's just going to be about three different meetings after hours hearing, just hearing people out. Uh, Casa DLS Bronza. We had recent inspections with positive conditions and no major issues. The property remains to be stable and compliance.

0:55:33Currently, we have two vacancies and they are in their final lease up. For a May movement date. We continue to work with USDA on our permanent waiver. We have tried communicating with them for the last few months. And finally received some correspondence late last week. So we're hopeful that maybe that's starting to move forward. And staff is looking at that again. We are working with calendars to plan our open house to feature all of the work at CASA last year. So you'll see that on somebody's calendar in the next week or so. Great. Thanks. I just had one quick question on the custody specific to the prioritization of farmers for those housing units. And just curious if you all have heard anything in regards to the state legislation that just passed. There was an article today, I think, or yesterday in Colorado Sun, I think it was just in regards to that impact that is potentially going to create lower wages. Um, and just wondering thinking again, because it's a property BCHA. Is there something that we need to be doing just to, um, support people, make people aware. So just be a curiosity. And I think, you know, it's relatively new. But I don't, so maybe it's the next month just update if then you see that's connected that's going to impact residents at

0:56:54cost. We continue to prioritize the farm workers there, but we'll look into that one for an update unless you've seen something Susanna. No, I know what article you're referencing. I did find that quite interesting, um, in terms of like what they're allowed to now, especially in the, uh, overtime wage category. Um, I don't, I mean, this property probably wouldn't be impacted by that unless we get that full waiver, but we don't know yet what USDA will do. But I will make a note of that. Okay. Thank you. You know, my only comment on this is that when I took office in January of 2021, Commissioner Lochman and the options were presented and it was, you know, USDA rural development doesn't even have a process for this. They won't even consider anything. But well, let's give it a try because we don't really have any choice.

0:57:52And it was such a long shot and they'll give us this waiver, but we'll have to do it annually. And now to be at the point where we might actually get a permanent waiver and be able to fully lease this up and utilize this incredible asset that we have is very, very exciting. And it is way beyond my original expectations. So I'm very happy about that. Thank you. I will hand it off to some hang. Good morning, Commissioners. Same though. Operations Division Manager. So the current vacancy rate is 94. 35 percent. It has increased by 1. 68 percent year to date. This increase has been primarily driven by normal lease expirations. Tenant move out. Unus taken offline for rehab work and five units taken offline due to contamination. The market rental rates are also contributing factor. The current market rent for one bedroom unit in Lafayette is approximately 1, 755 dollars per month is 1, 695 dollars per month. Although BCHA remains slightly below market, the gap is narrow. Our rents are currently based off of 2025 rates. And we will need to evaluate increases to align to 2026 rates due to rising operating costs and utility costs. This may place some BCHA rents closer to current market levels. At the same time, many market rate communities offer more amenities and leasing incentives. To remain

0:59:31competitive, retain residents and attract new applicants BCHA should evaluate targeted incentives for both lease renewals and new movies. To currently help to address the vacancy rate property managers have started usingpartments. com to broaden the outreach and connect with prospective applicants in this surrounding communities. Since the implementation, online marketing has generated 355 leads resulting in 79 applications process. 32 applications approved and 32 move - ins and 10 pending movements next month. Once Yardian rent cafe are fully implemented, we will have additional tools to support outreach, including improved communication with current voucher holders. However, due to current responsibilities of the property managers, we have not been able to consistently follow up with every lead. I'm planning to reclassify an available admin tech position to at leasting agent role. This position will help focus on lead follow - up application support. And lease up activity. This will allow property manage to remain focused on operations, compliance and resident needs while improving our ability to convert leads into approved applicants and completed move - ins. Questions. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks for that information and update. Just hearing what I, what I received in a portion of that was that there will be a conversation for BCHA Board members to talk about what Grant increases might be. Do you have a timeline of when you're expecting to be able

1:01:05to bring that forward? And I'm just thinking about the full budget and all that those pieces that were in process. My guest commissioner would be in August as we're preparing to get all of our budget numbers aligned by August as well. So actually probably July so that we can prepare in August. It is definitely something we're watching really closely. We've talked to the other housing directors regionally and we're all seeing that same thing now with market rate. And so we're all struggling with that. Chafa is also aware of that. We have, I know our staff has met recently, which happened has done some trainings on sort of why this happens. And, um, potential solutions on the chaffa side since they set our rent rates a lot of the times. So we're working on both fronts currently. Okay. Yeah. And just to curiosity understanding what I also heard was, um, change of position to create, and I don't know if it's an additional leasing agent person or if it would just be the first leasing agent person for this team. Apartments. com is an example. I don't know which pieces of the system that BCHA is using, but I'm curious if the other systems that are being used have compatible services from a technology standpoint, i.

1:02:22e. you can, somebody can go in, they have their own credit report. They get their background track, all those things from a technology standpoint that could be, that could be very helpful to leasing agent. Yes. So just trying to understand what is being used now in comparison for all of the services, not just to get, um, online marketing leads. So currently, um. For our community outreach, we're only using Craigslist right now. So apartments. com has brought in our reach a little bit, but we, we do have Yardy coming in, um, in July. That will actually give us additional tools. Everything you just said, actually. So we don't, right now currently our housing management system does not offer a forward facing, um, component that people can engage in on their own. You already will through rent cafe, which I know some hang has worked with at other housing authorities. And he can talk to you about that. But that will allow people to go in, do their applications online, upload their own documents and get real time updates. We don't currently have that available to us, which is what another reason why we're so excited about Yardy to be able to have families do that. Households can pay online. I mean, a lot of structure that we don't have currently. Okay. Yeah. Um, I agree. I

1:03:38think it's going to add a whole other dimension to the work that you're able to do. I think the only other piece I'd be thinking about, um, for folks who don't want to pay online, um, because there is a charge. What are the other options? And is it clear that people have that opportunity? I think for all of the reasons of even being able to do like rent credit, um, it makes it way easier. But I do know the people that don't, don't incur that additional fees. So just something to think about with those technologies. Um, and then I think it would be helpful for the board to have a better understanding of how significant the market rate and the incentives that I've seen in Longmont, um, there's organizations offering up to three months rent for free for someone to sign on. So just to have an idea of what you are thinking because that too will create some budget and numbers issue. So just want to hear all of it and just want to be, um, make sure that we're able to have conversation.

1:04:40Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I think on the one hand, it's great that market rates have come down to the point that, you know, they're competitive. Um, we just have to be able to offer something more, some value add. And as you noted, market rate units often have more amenities. However, you know, I think we're an ideal landlord. I don't know how we distinguish ourselves necessarily. But I also just philosophically, and this goes back to the discussion we had in conjunction with the 2026 budget around, um, around rent increases that we are a housing authority to house low - income people who don't have options in the market. And while I know that our cost increase, uh, utilities, maintenance, et cetera, I think it's incumbent on us to find ways to absorb those increases or, you know, find other efficiencies so that we, you know, we are affordable to people who cannot be in the, in the market. And so I'm not prepared sitting here today to, you know, have, have a list or an ideas, but I think this is something we just need to be really careful about. Those, we got not a lot, but we got some emails about those three bedroom 90 dollar a month increases that were substantial for people.

1:06:21And those are not families that, uh, whose incomes went up commensurately. So just, I think we just need to be careful about, about saying, you know, we've, we've had increases. And so chaffa allows. And so therefore, we're going to do this when, um, you know, we're going to price people out of, out of our units. Um, I was actually a commissioner of the housing authority a long time ago. Um, and we, how do you have already got into some financial trouble because market rents were, um, below what we were renting. And, you know, in some cases, you know, we did not make good decisions about, uh, about the units that we were owning and how much we were paying for them. And it's always been a lesson. I've kept with me about, um, about being very careful about the acquisitions when we're buying already developed units, but then also when we're doing pro formas is to realize that, you know, markets, we always tend to think that they only go one direction, but, but they do come down. So just a little sermon about that.

1:07:36Thank you. Commissioner. Thank you. Great. So something, thank you very much. Now Kelly Schulz is going to give us the grants update. Good morning, commissioners. Can you hear me okay? Yes. Okay. Good. I'm coming from you. Um, this is Kelly Schulz. I'm the Hud Grants and Compliance Division Manager. And I'm actually in our maintenance office in Longmont doing the first set of Yarty trainings this week as we will be going live, um, in June so that then the check runs for July happened out of the new system. Um, and so to answer one of your questions, since you are a point that you brought up on that, is that tenants will still have the option to pay rent how they happen paying rent through mail, through money orders, through checks, uh, we occasionally accepted in our offices as well. The main housing offices, um, Long Mon and Boulder. And those will still be options, but we do get a lot of them that want to be able to pay online. So that'll be a nice new feature. One of the new features that Yarty's going to offer. But, um, to get back to the slide we've got right now. So we are full into audit season right now and site visits. Um, we've had, we've completed several already. And then we have several more coming

1:08:58up. As of this morning, actually, we did get results on our bloom field management and occupancy, which was looking over the files. And we got an above average score with very minor corrections that need to be done. They're minor file corrections, a few pieces of needing signatures or needing some extra language tied into Lisa Dendums. And so our team is working with, uh, property managers to get that collected and submitted to turn that back in. But. Uh, this is what's on the board here. That's all I've got on this slide. So we can go to the next slide. So I went to the moving to work conference, um, April 7th through April 10th with a couple other BCHA staff members in the housing department. I went with our occupancy supervisor. We went with, uh, Gwen Mossman and also Alicia Shefflin Thompson who runs the family self - sufficiency program. And one of the things we were all looking to just learn from the other housing authorities kind of speak to HUD, hear their position on updates regarding their, they formed a new coalition called The Work and Dignity Coalition, which is aimed at trying to get folks back into the workforce. And eventually get off of housing assistance. And what Susanna was speaking to about the current, uh, rule that's out for Public comment is

1:10:31this type of, um, program administration was previously just limited to the 139 MTW agencies. They were the only agencies that were able to do the innovative things regarding rent tiers work requirements term limits. And outside of the family self - sufficiency program and this new, this new rule change, which will be closing on May 1st is going to allow all housing authorities, the ability to participate in it. And like Susanna was saying, it is voluntary. It's just opening it up to all housing authorities. Um, there are some caveats with it. So if housing authorities are choosing to participate in any sort of term limits or work requirements, what they're going to ask is that you are required to offer supportive services case management services along with it. And that is not something that HUD will provide the funding for. So you do need to work with your other, um, community - based agencies or your workforce development in order to do that. Uh, there's going to be some limits as far as who, who you can enforce it on. If the household has children under the age of six, they can be exempt because they're carrying for minor children. If the household is receiving disability, they're considered a disabled household. They would be exempt if the household is considered elderly age 62 or older. They

1:12:01would be exempt as well. Are some of the basic requirements? Um, the rule is really open right now that it would allow housing authorities then to structure it further if they only wanted to pilot it with a certain population, uh, a certain, just a certain number of folks, maybe just a new admissions. Um, there's lots of comments right now on the federal site about that. There was lots of talk about that at the MTW Conference. There's a lot of housing authorities that are not MTW agencies. A lot of smaller ones actually that are kind of interested in being able to pilot something like this. Um, so we'll just, we're kind of monitoring it. What we have discussed, and that was one of the reasons why we brought The Family Self - Sufficiency Staff with us to the move to work conference is we, since HUD did make changes to how the FSS program was run several years ago, we have kind of seen a decline in folks taking full advantage of the incentives that FSS offers as far as, um, building escrow for when you are increasing your income. And so that is something we are kind of exploring with our move to work plan for 2027 is looking at where we could maybe try to make the program what it was, um, back in

1:13:20the day. And specifically for folks that are receiving a preference point for coming into one of our units and participating in FSS. And it's not necessarily just a work requirement thing. We're looking at like participating in education, participating in, um, job training, participating maybe in a path for homeownership. And so there were several housing authorities there. Baltimore being one of them that has a really robust program. Even the DC housing authority has a really robust FSS program. Um, that we got really excited about maybe modeling some of our proposed policies off of that. And so the team and I are going to be meeting at the end of May to kind of compile all the data. We just got the updates from the conference. They just published last week all of the materials that they shared with all of the contacts. And so we're going to reach out to some folks, sit down together. And at the end of May, kind of come up with a, like a rough draft plan of ideas that we would like to propose to leadership and then bring back to everybody for, um, thoughts on it. Anytime we do something like this, though, we do always go out for public comment. We, we have to put it out for the Public comment period. We have to, um, talk to

1:14:38all of our residents and solicit feedback. So I don't expect us to be proposing a major change. Um, again, we're just kind of monitoring just like what Susanna said, what everybody else is doing. And then we started kind of pulling data just to look at like in the future, if they were to go with this type of model, what are we looking at? Um, as far as who is this going to affect, we are already serving. One of the things that did change is the procurement guidelines are now, um, applicable to the housing choice about your administrative funds from HUD, which they weren't previously. They never have been. And so this is something we are also monitoring because this is going to cause a shift in how we record our finance. Our expenditures on the finance side of things. Um, and it's going to require more detailed records in case of an audit that comes up as far as supporting the backup before, uh, before purchases happen using our administrative funds. And right now our administrative funds mainly cover staff salaries, which so that should be okay. Um, we, we would be in compliance with this. But when if and when we're using any of the funds for like, um, software purchases like this Yardy or for, uh, for office supplies, even really small things,

1:16:01it's going to just require some extra work on our part as far as record keeping. So those are my updates on that before I go to the next slide. Do you have any questions about the MTW updates? I just had a quick question. I was trying to take notes, Kelly, while you were speaking. You were talking about, um, if housing authorities do the work requirement, they'd be required to provide support service. And then what was the second piece that you said. Um, so there would be required to provide supportive services. And then it's limited to, I don't know if this is piece you're asking about, it's limited to a certain set of population if they are proposing any work requirements or term limits on it, which they have to exclude folks that have a minor child under the age of six in the household. Folks that are considered elderly over the age of 62, um, disabled households receiving, uh, SSI and SSDI. I thought when you spoke that you said there was two things that, um, The Housing Authorities would be required to provide, but I may have, well, it is, it's definitely the support of services. So you definitely would have to provide supportive services, but HUD's not going to provide any funding for that. So they're encouraging you to connect with, um, community

1:17:15- based organizations or your workforce. Okay. So there isn't two items. It was just the supportive services. Thank you. That was correct. Thank you. And then I think I will be interested in just learning. I'm actually going to work for development council meeting next. Um, when you're talking about that work, the expectation would be that would be one of the partners I think just something I keep thinking about. Thank you. Sure. And Kelly, I didn't have any questions, but thank you for the presentation. Um, so this slide then is like just a little bit of deep dive into our current program. So the work requirements, I was going off of how the federal notice is written right now, which would include voucher holders in the housing choice voucher program. And it also applies to any multifamily HUD multifamily assistance. And so we do have, um, I don't have that number in front of me. I think it's like 52 of those units as well. So all together we have right at this moment we have a thousand and two households that are enrolled in either the housing choice voucher program or the HUD multifamily program.

1:18:20Um, based on the guidance of how that rule is written, um, the households that are not, we have 178 households that are considered disabled non - elderly. And then we have 188 households that are elderly non - disabled. And we have an additional 108 households that have a child under the age of six. So those three categories would automatically be excluded from any work requirements. Of the 334 households that do meet what HUD is writing as work requirements. The current average annual income is only 23, 865. So it is very, very low. I put up here the HUD Boulder County income limits. They have not published 2026 just yet. So as you can see, and this is, these are our households. There's an average of about two people per household when I'm pulling this data. And so these households are making under 30 percent for just even a single person. So they're really, really low. So this, when looking at this kind of thing, this is, this is the data we would look at to see like wood term limits even make sense because you're going to have to bring these households up significantly income wise in order to be able to be self - sufficient. Um, our particular data, we have 255. So the majority fall under 30 percent AMI for their household size

1:20:07And so when we're talking about wanting people to be self - sufficient, we're going to have to bring them up quite a bit so that they are making enough where roughly they'd still be only paying 30 to 40 percent of their income towards rent without assistance. Like we would have to see households get close to the 80 percent or above the 80 percent AMIs in order to do that. So again, this is just a very basic mock - up, but this is just some initial data that'll be helpful in kind of like having this and exploring this. And like Susanna said, Denver has a really, uh, unique and kind of, I kind of, I appreciate their approach of what they are preparing for in case they, or all of us are asked to explore something.

1:20:55They have a track program based on where folks are, um, currently on their income. And then their individual household goals. Like, are they wanting to explore home ownership and what would it take to get them to that? Are they wanting to explore education and what would it take to get them to that? And then they're proposed model would be pairing them up with the correct supportive services. And what does the income, what does the final income need to look like in order to exit somebody off of the program? Um, I know they met with HUD to show that just to set some realistic expectations with HUD. Like you can't just do blanket term limits. Like this is what you're looking at. If you've got a household that's only making this much money, it's going to take 10 plus years to get them into a self - sufficiency, uh, model type of a thing. So anyways, just kind of want to share that and see if anybody has any questions or comments on this. What I heard Kelly was just, this is kind of initial data and for us to start thinking about it. So I found a very helpful in that way. I do have a question, but I'm also watching the clock because I know Commissioner Lochman has 11 o'clock and as do I.

1:22:06And my, my question is just, um, the classification or the definition of disabled. Does that only include physical disabilities or does that it also includes like an intellectual or a developmental or mental health disability? Yes. HUD's actual definition is that you have to have some sort of disability that affects one or one or more major life functions. So it doesn't have to be physical. It can be a mental. Okay. So kind of tracks the Americans with disability act. Okay. Thanks for that. Um, yeah. Well, this is really important. You know, it tells us who our tenants are, who are residents are. And it just, it's really good to have if we start thinking about a policy change on that. So thanks. You're welcome. I know we only have two minutes really commissioner. So as you know, all of our financials are attached. Um, Sean is enabled to attend today. He's at the yardy training that's in person live too is leading that work. Um, but he did just want me to note a couple of things we do have a positive year to date variance, which is great. Um, really because a payroll expenses and sort of timing, um, we also have receive some SLP fees, which we were anticipating. He had just projected less because he's just modest in that. And so we've received

1:23:24morphes and he initially projected. And then also, um, other expenses are coming in under budget. Um, add many utilities maintenance. A lot of that could be of timing. You know, we didn't have a very cold winter. So we likely saved on some utility fees. As you know, we cover a lot of utilities across the portfolio. We're watching that carefully that may be offset by a warmer summer. So we may not actually come ahead in that, but, um, nonetheless watching those things very carefully. He did also want to know that the audit is on track and we are set to be complete by 5. 15. So May 15th. Um, but any other questions Kelly is here to answer on the financial questions for losing my voice questions for Kelly. Thank you. I don't, I don't have any additional questions that did go through the packet ahead of time. And I kind of asked my questions during the presentation today. So really appreciate everyone being here. Then none, none for me. Thank you. And all that is left is matters from the board. I just wanted to mention, so I was traveling with, um, Mayor Mark laces from superior last week. And, you know, we, we were just talking a little bit about the RTD, TOD site and superior, which we started exploring and didn't go forward

1:24:41with for many, many reasons. And that was the right decision to make at the time. Um, he did encourage us to, you know, begin thinking about it. I explained that all of our resources are going into, uh, will it be corner right now. But, um, but he said he thinks, you know, the community would be much more receptive at this time than they were back in, what was it, 2021, 22, I think was after the Martial Fire. So, you know, maybe just some early conversations about what something there might look like. You know, they're excited about, about the, um, Penrose, what do they call it? Kite crossing. Yeah, they're really excited about that. And I think the community's got a different attitude about, uh, about an approach to that property. Well, that's good to hear.

1:25:34Um, we have met with staff actually just a week and a half ago. Um, so we're dusting off those materials. As you know, I was not here during the initial conversation. So I need to get caught up to speed on sort of where we left off and what, um, some of the RTD conditions were, but we're interested too. It sounds like a really exciting project. I was the staff has said that the City Council had made a former request to re - engage with BCHA. So that's great. And so we're starting to look it over. Great. That's exciting. Thank you. All right. Well, um, thank you for the Through presentation. All the wonderful slides. There's a lot to share and celebrate. And so we will adjourn of our meeting as the Board of the Boulder County Housing Authority. And I will also adjourn, um, our business meeting and all further meetings as the Board of County Commissioners because we have other things to attend to.

1:26:28So thank you so much. Thank you.